From list@dvbc.org Sat May 1 01:20:32 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:20:32 EDT Subject: [DVBC] First Ride Message-ID: <1f1.1f417043.2dc44750@aol.com> -------------------------------1083370831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congratulations Jeanne on your first ride with DVBC. You couldn't have had a better more knowledgeable person than Frank help you get started. Keep up the good work. I found the better of a bike rider you become the more enjoyable it becomes. -------------------------------1083370831 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Jeanne on your first ride with DVBC. You couldn't have ha= d a better more knowledgeable person than Frank help you get started. Keep u= p the good work. I found the better of a bike rider you become the more enjo= yable it becomes. -------------------------------1083370831-- From list@dvbc.org Sat May 1 02:03:17 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Woody Kotch) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:03:17 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Creek Cleanup References: <00d301c42cd9$6573f4c0$3f456acf@home> Message-ID: <000801c42f18$1733ae40$0b02a8c0@WorkGroup> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C42EF6.8F942620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And for those of you who can help this Sat.5/01, with our biker's = creek cleanup, we will meet at 9 at the intersection of Gradyville and = Bishop Hollow Rds. I have work gloves and trash bags for everyone. Wear = appropriate clothing. We will walk down Gradyville, towards where the = Crum goes underneath and into the Reservoir, picking up trash as we go. = We will leave the bags in a pile on the side of the road for the county = to collect. Be sure to sign in and afterward we are welcome to a picnic = at Rose Tree Park. T-shirts will be given to participants. Should be = fun. Could everyone respond who is planning to come? Ira Ira, I'll see you at 9:00 am tomorrow. Woody ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C42EF6.8F942620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 
And for those of you who can help = this Sat.5/01,=20 with our biker's creek cleanup, we will meet at 9 at the intersection = of=20 Gradyville and Bishop Hollow Rds. I have work gloves and trash bags = for=20 everyone. Wear appropriate clothing. We will walk down Gradyville, = towards=20 where the Crum goes underneath and into the Reservoir, picking up = trash as we=20 go. We will leave the bags in a pile on the side of the road for the = county to=20 collect. Be sure to sign in and afterward we are welcome to a = picnic at=20 Rose Tree Park. T-shirts will be given to participants. Should be fun. = Could=20 everyone respond who is planning to come?
Ira
 
Ira,
 
I'll see you at 9:00 am = tomorrow.
 
Woody
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C42EF6.8F942620-- From list@dvbc.org Sun May 2 03:07:02 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Frank Jackson) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 22:07:02 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] First Ride Message-ID: Ed Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully I see you on my May 29th ride. It will be the same route we took last fall. Frank >From: EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com >Reply-To: list@dvbc.org >To: list@dvbc.org >Subject: Re: [DVBC] First Ride >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:20:32 EDT > >Congratulations Jeanne on your first ride with DVBC. You couldn't have had >a >better more knowledgeable person than Frank help you get started. Keep up >the >good work. I found the better of a bike rider you become the more enjoyable >it >becomes. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From list@dvbc.org Sun May 2 03:04:40 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Frank Jackson) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 22:04:40 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] First Ride Message-ID: Jenne Your welcome, thank you for the note. Dave and I, and the rest of the Tuesday night C group hope to see you out there with us this Tuesday. Frank >From: JPattalino@EvergreenInvestments.com >Reply-To: list@dvbc.org >To: list@dvbc.org >Subject: [DVBC] First Ride >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:16:10 -0400 > >I wanted to thank Frank Jackson for making my first ride as a member of >Delaware Valley Bicycle Club a really good experience. Since Frank and I >were the only two making the ride, he spent the time sharing his extensive >biking knowledge which will hopefully make it possible for me to give the >C rides a try. I also had an opportunity to meet Dave and his wife and >look forward to riding with him next Tuesday. I know already that >choosing DVBC was a good move. Thanks again, Frank. > >Jeanne > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From list@dvbc.org Sun May 2 14:43:58 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 09:43:58 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Great Message-ID: <1eb.1f3d699f.2dc6551e@aol.com> -------------------------------1083505438 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit News Bob Leon is getting discharge monday afternoon. -------------------------------1083505438 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable News Bob Leon is getting discharge monday afternoon. -------------------------------1083505438-- From list@dvbc.org Sun May 2 18:33:40 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:33:40 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Bike4Sight Tour Message-ID: <050220041733.16810.409530F30008657E000041AA2160280741FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> Good afternoon, everyone. I just got back from the Bike4Sight Tour sponsored by the Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired. We had a great turn-out by members of the DVBC - I think Doug counted at least 10 members who did the ride. While we did take a little "shower" near the end, I thought the ride was well-marked and challenging. One of the rest stops (in Delaware) was located at the Mt. Cuba Observatory! And with pizza and crab cake sandwiches at the end, you couldn't ask for more. One last (and important) thing - please look for our very own Jim Walls on the news tonight. Apparently the photogenic rider (looking resplendent in his brand new DVBC jersey) was interviewed by the Channel 3 news team. Way to go, Jim! Dom From list@dvbc.org Sun May 2 18:38:13 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 13:38:13 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Bike4Sight Tour Message-ID: <102.44168169.2dc68c05@aol.com> -------------------------------1083519493 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim and I should also be on channel 10 news. They filmed us as we were taking off for the second time. -------------------------------1083519493 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim and I should also be on channel 10 news. They filmed us as we were ta= king off for the second time. -------------------------------1083519493-- From list@dvbc.org Sun May 2 18:42:19 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:42:19 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Bike4Sight Tour Message-ID: <050220041742.21954.409532FB000052F4000055C22160280741FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21954_1083519739_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alright, folks, let's fire up those VCRs. Even birth years, tape Channel 10; odd years, Channel 3. :-) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21954_1083519739_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com To: list@dvbc.org Subject: Re: [DVBC] Bike4Sight Tour Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:39:02 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21954_1083519739_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21954_1083519739_1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim and I should also be on channel 10 news. They filmed us as we were taking off for the second time. --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21954_1083519739_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim and I should also be on channel 10 news. They filmed us as we were ta= king off for the second time. --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21954_1083519739_1-- From list@dvbc.org Mon May 3 13:19:12 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 08:19:12 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] First Ride In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-0165503e-770a-4701-82f8-42e00b0fe32c Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0043AE1685256E89_=" --=_alternative 0043AE1685256E89_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Frank and Dave, I won't be there this Tuesday but hope to be there next week. Thanks. "Frank Jackson" Sent by: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org 05/01/2004 10:04 PM Please respond to list@dvbc.org To list@dvbc.org cc Subject RE: [DVBC] First Ride Jenne Your welcome, thank you for the note. Dave and I, and the rest of the Tuesday night C group hope to see you out there with us this Tuesday. Frank >From: JPattalino@EvergreenInvestments.com >Reply-To: list@dvbc.org >To: list@dvbc.org >Subject: [DVBC] First Ride >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:16:10 -0400 > >I wanted to thank Frank Jackson for making my first ride as a member of >Delaware Valley Bicycle Club a really good experience. Since Frank and I >were the only two making the ride, he spent the time sharing his extensive >biking knowledge which will hopefully make it possible for me to give the >C rides a try. I also had an opportunity to meet Dave and his wife and >look forward to riding with him next Tuesday. I know already that >choosing DVBC was a good move. Thanks again, Frank. > >Jeanne > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! 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>I wanted to thank Frank Jackson for making my first ride as a member of
>Delaware Valley Bicycle Club a really good experience.  Since Frank and I
>were the only two making the ride, he spent the time sharing his extensive
>biking knowledge which will hopefully make it possible for me to give the
>C rides a try.  I also had an opportunity to meet Dave and his wife and
>look forward to riding with him next Tuesday.  I know already that
>choosing DVBC was a good move.  Thanks again, Frank.
>
>Jeanne
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--=_alternative 0043AE1685256E89_=-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-0165503e-770a-4701-82f8-42e00b0fe32c-- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 4 00:00:42 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 19:00:42 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Wednesday Night Ride Message-ID: <1dc.208a66ea.2dc8291a@aol.com> My Wednesday Night Rose Tree Ride is actually a B Ride every week this month.... I believe Tony is leading an A ride. Not sure if Dom is leading the C ride? Regardless, I plan on going for pizza after the rides is anyone is interested meet up in the parking lot after the rides. No response necessary, Brian From list@dvbc.org Tue May 4 16:34:23 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Trout) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:34:23 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen Ride Message-ID: <003301c431ed$470dbf70$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C431CB.BF92AF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't win. When I put my rides in for May I had originally planned to do a Kountry = Kitchen C Ride on Saturday the 8th. But I was asked to move the ride to = another date because the paint ride is scheduled for the 8th. Okay, so = I agreed to move it to Sunday the 9th which I then posted with the BCP. = So I think everything is okay. But Nooooooo. My wife says "you know the = 9th is Mother's Day." I forgot. Then I get the DVBC newsletter and = realize thet the ride is listed for Saturday. Now I have the same ride = listed on two different days. If I do it on Saturday it conflicts with = the paint ride and if I do it on Sunday it conflicts with my marriage = and it will probably not be appreciated at the Kountry Kitchen if I = bring a gang in on Mom's Day. I think I will have to do it on Saturday. = Any other ideas. Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C431CB.BF92AF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I can't win.
When I put my rides in for May I had = originally=20 planned to do a Kountry Kitchen C Ride on Saturday the 8th.  But I = was=20 asked to move the ride to another date because the paint ride is = scheduled=20 for the 8th.  Okay, so I agreed to move it to Sunday the 9th which = I then=20 posted with the BCP.  So I think everything is=20 okay. But Nooooooo.  My wife says "you know the 9th = is=20 Mother's Day."  I forgot.  Then I get the DVBC newsletter and = realize=20 thet the ride is listed for Saturday.  Now I have the = same ride=20 listed on two different days.  If I do it on Saturday it conflicts = with the=20 paint ride and if I do it on Sunday it conflicts with my marriage and it = will probably not be appreciated at the Kountry Kitchen if I = bring a=20 gang in on Mom's Day.  I think I will have to do it on = Saturday.  Any=20 other ideas.
 
Dave 
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C431CB.BF92AF40-- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 4 16:40:55 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Larry Green) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:40:55 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen Ride In-Reply-To: <003301c431ed$470dbf70$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> References: <003301c431ed$470dbf70$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> Message-ID: <4097B987.8050802@earthlink.net> Dave Trout wrote: > I can't win. > When I put my rides in for May I had originally planned to do a > Kountry Kitchen C Ride on Saturday the 8th. But I was asked to move > the ride to another date because the paint ride is scheduled for the > 8th. Okay, so I agreed to move it to Sunday the 9th which I then > posted with the BCP. So I think everything is okay. But Nooooooo. My > wife says "you know the 9th is Mother's Day." I forgot. Then I get > the DVBC newsletter and realize thet the ride is listed for > Saturday. Now I have the same ride listed on two different days. If > I do it on Saturday it conflicts with the paint ride and if I do it on > Sunday it conflicts with my marriage and it will probably not be > appreciated at the Kountry Kitchen if I bring a gang in on Mom's Day. > I think I will have to do it on Saturday. Any other ideas. > > Dave We could combine it with my Lunch Ride to Philly also scheduled originally for the 8th, then moved to the 9th but now gone from the list entirely. Larry From list@dvbc.org Tue May 4 17:12:17 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 12:12:17 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Rides Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040504121155.02c7e010@pop3.craftech.com> Hello Ride Leaders, Please submit your rides for June. Thank you Tony ----------------------------------------------- Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 CrafTech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com ----------------------------------------------- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 4 22:05:44 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 17:05:44 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Friday Ride Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040504170407.0419a0d0@pop3.craftech.com> I won't be doing my 1:30 Friday ride this coming Friday. I'll be going to Hunter Mountain to work out the final details for out trip in June. Tony ----------------------------------------------- Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 CrafTech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com ----------------------------------------------- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 4 22:01:43 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:01:43 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Baked Goodies Wanted Message-ID: <002301c4321b$15b05540$0a00010a@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C431F9.79C3A860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello DVBC members-- Home-baked goodies go a long way toward making a favorable = impression at a club tour. We would greatly appreciate any tasty treats = you can bake up to contribute to the club's cause at the Bonkers Metric = on May 16th.=20 Thanks! --Bob LaDrew & the Board ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C431F9.79C3A860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hello DVBC=20 members--
    Home-baked goodies = go a long way=20 toward making a favorable impression at a club tour. We would greatly = appreciate=20 any tasty treats you can bake up to contribute to the club's cause at = the=20 Bonkers Metric on May 16th.
    Thanks!
    --Bob LaDrew & = the=20 Board
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C431F9.79C3A860-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 00:57:51 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 19:57:51 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Baked Goodies Wanted In-Reply-To: <002301c4321b$15b05540$0a00010a@mycomputer> References: <002301c4321b$15b05540$0a00010a@mycomputer> Message-ID: Put me down for 2 or 3 pans of brownies. ------------------------------------- Dave Hartrum WA3YDZ dhartrum@mac.com dhartrum@comcast.net ------------------------------------- On May 4, 2004, at 5:01 PM, B or J LaDrew wrote: >     Hello DVBC members-- >     Home-baked goodies go a long way toward making a favorable > impression at a club tour. We would greatly appreciate any tasty > treats you can bake up to contribute to the club's cause at the > Bonkers Metric on May 16th. >     Thanks! >     --Bob LaDrew & the Board From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 01:02:14 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 20:02:14 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Friday Ride In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040504170407.0419a0d0@pop3.craftech.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040504170407.0419a0d0@pop3.craftech.com> Message-ID: <770FC212-9E27-11D8-B57A-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com> Have a safe trip Tony. Good to see you out on the road on Saturday if only for a minute or two. You went straight at the intersection and I took a left. Be careful at those intersections that are not 4-way stop signs :-) ------------------------------------- Dave Hartrum WA3YDZ dhartrum@mac.com dhartrum@comcast.net ------------------------------------- On May 4, 2004, at 5:05 PM, Antonio Rocha wrote: > I won't be doing my 1:30 Friday ride this coming Friday. I'll be going > to Hunter Mountain to work out the final details for out trip in June. > > Tony > ----------------------------------------------- > Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 > CrafTech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 > 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com > Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com > ----------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > DVBC mailing list > DVBC@list.dvbc.org > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 12:22:48 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 11:22:48 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Pinelands Triple Loop Message-ID: <050520041122.2507.4098CE880002B2E8000009CB2200763704FFCD8C96899E9B8F@comcast.net> My last plug for the Pinelands Triple Loop this Saturday, May 8, starting at 7:30am at Batsto Village, NJ. A fully supported ride put on by the Shore Cycle Club. Come out and enjoy a truly "flat" tune-up ride before the hills of the Bonkers. Glenn From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 13:32:56 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 08:32:56 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Baked Goodies Wanted Message-ID: <74.3bc3daff.2dca38f8@aol.com> -------------------------------1083760376 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How would we go about giving you the baked goods? I will more than likely ride my bike to the start of the Bonker's. ED -------------------------------1083760376 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How would we go about giving you the baked goods? I will more than likely= ride my bike to the start of the Bonker's. ED -------------------------------1083760376-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 14:29:58 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Trout) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:29:58 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Saturday Kountry Kitchen Ride Message-ID: <008701c432a5$1030c200$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C43283.88C06030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Saturday Kountry Kitchen ride will be as it is listed in the DVBC = newsletter. *:30 start at Kingsway. Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C43283.88C06030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Saturday Kountry Kitchen ride will = be as it is=20 listed in the DVBC newsletter.  *:30 start at = Kingsway.
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C43283.88C06030-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 14:40:07 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 09:40:07 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Friday Ride In-Reply-To: <770FC212-9E27-11D8-B57A-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040504170407.0419a0d0@pop3.craftech.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040504170407.0419a0d0@pop3.craftech.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040505093942.02db97c0@pop3.craftech.com> Hi Dave, Sorry I didn't stay with you but I was on a mission. Tony At 08:02 PM 5/4/04 -0400, you wrote: >Have a safe trip Tony. Good to see you out on the road on Saturday if only >for a minute or two. You went straight at the intersection and I took a >left. Be careful at those intersections that are not 4-way stop signs :-) From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 14:41:54 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:41:54 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Baked Goodies References: <74.3bc3daff.2dca38f8@aol.com> Message-ID: <001701c432a6$badca9c0$0a00010a@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43285.333B9B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks so much to Dave Hartrum and Ed Becker(star) for volunteering = to bring homemade goodies on the 16th. Ed, you can either give them to = Dom at the park early in the morning, or drop them off personally at = Cheyney when you get down that way. Or give them to one of the SAG = drivers who promises not to each too much.=20 --Bob ----- Original Message -----=20 From: EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com=20 To: list@dvbc.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [DVBC] Baked Goodies Wanted How would we go about giving you the baked goods? I will more than = likely ride my bike to the start of the Bonker's. ED=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43285.333B9B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Thanks so much to Dave Hartrum = and Ed=20 Becker(star) for volunteering to bring homemade goodies on the 16th. Ed, = you can=20 either give them to Dom at the park early in the morning, or drop them = off=20 personally at Cheyney when you get down that way. Or give them to one of = the SAG=20 drivers who promises not to each too much.
    --Bob
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Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 = 8:32=20 AM
Subject: Re: [DVBC] Baked = Goodies=20 Wanted

How would we go about giving you the baked goods? I = will more=20 than likely ride my bike to the start of the Bonker's. ED=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43285.333B9B00-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 14:58:02 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Bob Leon) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:58:02 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen Ride In-Reply-To: <003301c431ed$470dbf70$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43287.747142D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave, The Kountry Kitchen is a bad idea for mothers day, you'll have one long wait to get in. I tried that one year and they didn't even take reservations and the wait was 1 hour. Bob -----Original Message----- From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org]On Behalf Of Dave Trout Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:34 AM To: DVBCList Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen Ride I can't win. When I put my rides in for May I had originally planned to do a Kountry Kitchen C Ride on Saturday the 8th. But I was asked to move the ride to another date because the paint ride is scheduled for the 8th. Okay, so I agreed to move it to Sunday the 9th which I then posted with the BCP. So I think everything is okay. But Nooooooo. My wife says "you know the 9th is Mother's Day." I forgot. Then I get the DVBC newsletter and realize thet the ride is listed for Saturday. Now I have the same ride listed on two different days. If I do it on Saturday it conflicts with the paint ride and if I do it on Sunday it conflicts with my marriage and it will probably not be appreciated at the Kountry Kitchen if I bring a gang in on Mom's Day. I think I will have to do it on Saturday. Any other ideas. Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43287.747142D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,
 
The=20 Kountry Kitchen is a bad idea for mothers day, you'll have one long wait = to get=20 in. I tried that one year and they didn't even take reservations and the = wait=20 was 1 hour.
 
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: = dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org=20 [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org]On Behalf Of Dave=20 Trout
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:34 AM
To:=20 DVBCList
Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen=20 Ride

I can't win.
When I put my rides in for May I had = originally=20 planned to do a Kountry Kitchen C Ride on Saturday the 8th.  But = I was=20 asked to move the ride to another date because the paint ride is=20 scheduled for the 8th.  Okay, so I agreed to move it to Sunday = the 9th=20 which I then posted with the BCP.  So I think everything is=20 okay. But Nooooooo.  My wife says "you know the = 9th is=20 Mother's Day."  I forgot.  Then I get the DVBC newsletter = and=20 realize thet the ride is listed for Saturday.  Now I = have the=20 same ride listed on two different days.  If I do it on Saturday = it=20 conflicts with the paint ride and if I do it on Sunday it conflicts = with my=20 marriage and it will probably not be appreciated at the = Kountry=20 Kitchen if I bring a gang in on Mom's Day.  I think I will have = to do it=20 on Saturday.  Any other ideas.
 
Dave 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43287.747142D0-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 16:14:54 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 11:14:54 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Newsletter Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040505110208.02ac0230@pop3.craftech.com> We need Newsletter distribution volunteers that can pickup the newsletters here at my office and take them to the bike shops on a regular basis. I would like to get a set of people that can distribute to the same bike shops every month. Anyone that can help, please contact me. Thank you for your support Tony ----------------------------------------------- Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 CrafTech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com ----------------------------------------------- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 16:59:15 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Trout) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:59:15 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen Ride References: Message-ID: <002501c432b9$eac516a0$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C43298.632FEEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's what I thought and why I am doing it on Saturday. Thanks for the = info. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob Leon=20 To: list@dvbc.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: RE: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen Ride Dave, The Kountry Kitchen is a bad idea for mothers day, you'll have one = long wait to get in. I tried that one year and they didn't even take = reservations and the wait was 1 hour. Bob -----Original Message----- From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org]On = Behalf Of Dave Trout Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:34 AM To: DVBCList Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen Ride I can't win. When I put my rides in for May I had originally planned to do a = Kountry Kitchen C Ride on Saturday the 8th. But I was asked to move the = ride to another date because the paint ride is scheduled for the 8th. = Okay, so I agreed to move it to Sunday the 9th which I then posted with = the BCP. So I think everything is okay. But Nooooooo. My wife says = "you know the 9th is Mother's Day." I forgot. Then I get the DVBC = newsletter and realize thet the ride is listed for Saturday. Now I have = the same ride listed on two different days. If I do it on Saturday it = conflicts with the paint ride and if I do it on Sunday it conflicts with = my marriage and it will probably not be appreciated at the Kountry = Kitchen if I bring a gang in on Mom's Day. I think I will have to do it = on Saturday. Any other ideas. Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C43298.632FEEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's what I thought and why I am = doing it on=20 Saturday.  Thanks for the info.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bob = Leon=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 = 9:58=20 AM
Subject: RE: [DVBC] This = weekend's=20 Kountry Kitchen Ride

Dave,
 
The=20 Kountry Kitchen is a bad idea for mothers day, you'll have one long = wait to=20 get in. I tried that one year and they didn't even take reservations = and the=20 wait was 1 hour.
 
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org=20 [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org]On Behalf Of Dave=20 Trout
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:34 AM
To:=20 DVBCList
Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen=20 Ride

I can't win.
When I put my rides in for May I = had=20 originally planned to do a Kountry Kitchen C Ride on Saturday the = 8th. =20 But I was asked to move the ride to another date because the paint=20 ride is scheduled for the 8th.  Okay, so I agreed to move = it to=20 Sunday the 9th which I then posted with the BCP.  So I think = everything=20 is okay. But Nooooooo.  My wife says "you know = the 9th=20 is Mother's Day."  I forgot.  Then I get the DVBC = newsletter and=20 realize thet the ride is listed for Saturday.  Now I = have the=20 same ride listed on two different days.  If I do it on Saturday = it=20 conflicts with the paint ride and if I do it on Sunday it conflicts = with my=20 marriage and it will probably not be appreciated at the = Kountry=20 Kitchen if I bring a gang in on Mom's Day.  I think I will have = to do=20 it on Saturday.  Any other ideas.
 
Dave 
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C43298.632FEEC0-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 17:21:56 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 16:21:56 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] This weekend's Kountry Kitchen Ride Message-ID: <050520041621.11648.409914A4000BA58500002D802200735834FFCCC9CFC6CE9B9A9A8F8C9A8B96@comcast.net> Bob! Glad to see that you are back on the listserve, and I hope you are feeling well. -Christine From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 17:54:35 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 12:54:35 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Friday Ride Message-ID: <16623595.1083776075217.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com> No problem Tony. I had my own ride plan in mind and didn't feel up to pushing too hard to try and stay with you. On Wednesday, May 05, 2004, at 09:40AM, Antonio Rocha wrote: >Hi Dave, >Sorry I didn't stay with you but I was on a mission. > >Tony > > >At 08:02 PM 5/4/04 -0400, you wrote: >>Have a safe trip Tony. Good to see you out on the road on Saturday if only >>for a minute or two. You went straight at the intersection and I took a >>left. Be careful at those intersections that are not 4-way stop signs :-) > >_______________________________________________ >DVBC mailing list >DVBC@list.dvbc.org >http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc > > ---------------- Dave Hartrum dhartrum@mac.com From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 17:56:30 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 12:56:30 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Baked Goodies Wanted Message-ID: <7806504.1083776190961.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com> ------=_Part_1693_4884793.1083776190949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's what those big pockets on the back of your jersey are for :-) On Wednesday, May 05, 2004, at 08:32AM, wrote: > ><> ---------------- Dave Hartrum dhartrum@mac.com ------=_Part_1693_4884793.1083776190949 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How would we go about giving you the baked goods? I will more than like= ly ride my bike to the start of the Bonker's. ED ------=_Part_1693_4884793.1083776190949-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 18:00:35 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 13:00:35 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Baked Goodies Wanted Message-ID: <27.575e9306.2dca77b3@aol.com> -------------------------------1083776434 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hardly have enough room for my almonds, soy nuts, cranberries and cliff bars let alone cookies or something. -------------------------------1083776434 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hardly have enough room for my almonds, soy nuts, cranberries and cliff= bars let alone cookies or something. -------------------------------1083776434-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 18:04:04 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 13:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DVBC] Newsletter In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040505110208.02ac0230@pop3.craftech.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040505110208.02ac0230@pop3.craftech.com> Message-ID: <51111.207.69.137.202.1083776644.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> > We need Newsletter distribution volunteers that can pickup the > newsletters here at my office and take them to the bike shops on a > regular basis. I would like to get a set of people that can distribute > to the same bike shops every month. > Anyone that can help, please contact me. > > Thank you for your support > Tony > > D'ster would especially appreciate it if anybody who lives near West > Chester can handle delivery to West Goshen Bike line and West Chester > Cycles (West town) I've been doing it for years and am tired of having > to travel so far from Lansdowne.> ----------------------------------------------- > Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 > CrafTech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 > 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com > Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com > ----------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > DVBC mailing list > DVBC@list.dvbc.org > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 18:22:29 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (eric zwicky) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 13:22:29 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Newsletter In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040505110208.02ac0230@pop3.craftech.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040505110208.02ac0230@pop3.craftech.com> Message-ID: tony, i will deliver to performance and bean's if that helps. -eric z On Wed, 05 May 2004 11:14:54 -0400, you wrote: >We need Newsletter distribution volunteers that can pickup the newsletters >here at my office and take them to the bike shops on a regular basis. >I would like to get a set of people that can distribute to the same bike >shops every month. >Anyone that can help, please contact me. > >Thank you for your support >Tony > > >----------------------------------------------- >Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 >CrafTech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 >113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com >Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com >----------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >DVBC mailing list >DVBC@list.dvbc.org >http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 21:16:13 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:16:13 EDT Subject: [DVBC] ride Message-ID: <1d6.2098bcfb.2dcaa58d@aol.com> -------------------------------1083788173 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At Q i at 10am Landis Valley road and rt 272 Lancaster c ride. -------------------------------1083788173 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At Q i at 10am Landis Valley road and rt 272 Lancaster c ride. -------------------------------1083788173-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 6 01:05:34 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 20:05:34 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Benefit Ride Message-ID: <004301c432fd$db20efa0$0a00010a@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C432DC.535FD5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You may recall the tragic account on the list serve last year of the = woman Sharon Giannino who died on a club ride when, in the final sprint = for the parking lot, she ran head-first into a farm tractor. Her club, = the Orange County Bike Club, is donating the proceeds from its September = 12th ride to her three children. Here is the info on that ride: =20 The Orange County Country Roads Bicycle Tour is a high-wheeling festival that gathers cyclists from across the region. It starts with a non-competitive bike ride and ends with a banquet, trade show and live music. Country Roads returns Sunday, September 12, offering well-planned routes along uncrowded roads through the varied landscape of Orange County, in New York's Hudson Valley. =20 The routes range in style from a ten-mile flatlander for children and once-in-a-while riders, to a challenging metric century through rolling farmland and over forested ridges. All rides begin and end at Warwick High School in Warwick, New York. Along the way, riders refuel at frequent rest stops stocked with plenty of fresh fruit, hand-made sandwiches and cookies and cakes baked at home, often from recipes that go back several generations. At journey's end, riders will find cool shade and a bountiful picnic. Jake Stigers and the Velvet Roots, a great dance band, will take the open-air stage. Stigers is an emerging rocker whose performances in and around New York have created an enthusiastic following (see http://www.jakestigers.com). =20 The tour is sponsored by the Orange County Bicycle Club (OCBC). Registration fees cover route plans, mechanical support, rest stops, banquet, entertainment, and a choice of t-shirt or cycling socks. Registration is $30 in advance, $35 on the day of the event, and $15 for children under 12. With the Country Roads Tour of 2004, the Orange County Bicycle Club remembers its friend Sharon Giannino. Proceeds from the tour will benefit a memorial education fund for her three children. Country Roads is considered one of the premier bicycle events of its kind in the Northeast. In past years, it has attracted 1,200 to 1,600 participants. For more information, go to http://www.ocbicycleclub.org/, e-mail bigzip@frontiernet.net, or phone The Big Zipper at 845 457 5758. --Bob LaDrew =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C432DC.535FD5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    You may recall the = tragic=20 account on the list serve last year of the woman Sharon Giannino who = died on a=20 club ride when, in the final sprint for the parking lot, she ran = head-first into=20 a farm tractor. Her club, the Orange County Bike Club, is donating the = proceeds=20 from its September 12th ride to her three children. Here is the info on = that=20 ride:
   
The Orange County Country Roads Bicycle Tour is a high-wheeling=20 festival
that gathers cyclists from across the region.  It = starts with=20 a
non-competitive bike ride and ends with a banquet, trade show and=20 live
music.

Country Roads returns Sunday, September 12, = offering=20 well-planned routes
along uncrowded roads through the varied = landscape of=20 Orange County, in
New York's Hudson Valley. 

The routes = range in=20 style from a ten-mile flatlander for children and
once-in-a-while = riders, to=20 a challenging metric century through rolling
farmland and over = forested=20 ridges.  All rides begin and end at Warwick
High School in = Warwick, New=20 York.

Along the way, riders refuel at frequent rest stops stocked = with=20 plenty
of fresh fruit, hand-made sandwiches and cookies and cakes = baked=20 at
home, often from recipes that go back several = generations.

At=20 journey's end, riders will find cool shade and a bountiful = picnic.
Jake=20 Stigers and the Velvet Roots, a great dance band, will take = the
open-air=20 stage.  Stigers is an emerging rocker whose performances in = and
around=20 New York have created an enthusiastic following (see
http://www.jakestigers.com).&nbs= p;=20

The tour is sponsored by the Orange County Bicycle Club=20 (OCBC).
Registration fees cover route plans, mechanical support, rest = stops,
banquet, entertainment, and a choice of t-shirt or cycling=20 socks.
Registration is $30 in advance, $35 on the day of the event, = and $15=20 for
children under 12.

With the Country Roads Tour of 2004, = the Orange=20 County Bicycle Club
remembers its friend Sharon Giannino.  = Proceeds from=20 the tour will
benefit a memorial education fund for her three=20 children.

Country Roads is considered one of the premier bicycle = events=20 of its
kind in the Northeast.  In past years, it has attracted = 1,200 to=20 1,600
participants.  For more information, go to
http://www.ocbicycleclub.org/,= e-mail=20 bigzip@frontiernet.net, or = phone
The Big Zipper at 845 457 5758.
 
 --Bob=20 LaDrew






   
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C432DC.535FD5C0-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 6 01:47:22 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 20:47:22 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Breakaway Cafe Message-ID: <006801c43303$b1a7d020$0a00010a@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C432E2.2A00A6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had some contact with Don, of the Breakaway Cafe and, while = his cafe is clearly a for-profit commercial enterprise, I am telling the = members about it because it looks like something that might benefit all = of you at times.=20 The Breakaway Cafe is a cafe/convenience store for bicyclists = located on the Schuylkill River trail at Stop # 5 near Haws Avenue and = Riverfront Park. They sell water, drinks, sunglasses and bike supplies. = They have a bike repair area where, I understand, you can work on your = own bike. They offer emergency service so that, if you break down, they = will come out and help you.=20 If you take out a membership they offer discounts of 20-30%. They = have barbeques.=20 On Saturday, May 22 they are having an open house from 9 am till = dark. They have said that the DVBC is welcome to set up a table there = that day and solicit new memberships.=20 The man I spoke with is named Don and his phone number is = 610-270-9750.=20 I am not getting a kickback for this announcement.=20 --Bob LaDrew ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C432E2.2A00A6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I have had some = contact with=20 Don, of the Breakaway Cafe and, while his cafe is clearly a for-profit=20 commercial enterprise, I am telling the members about it because it = looks like=20 something that might benefit all of you at times.
    The Breakaway Cafe = is a=20 cafe/convenience store for bicyclists located on the Schuylkill River = trail at=20 Stop # 5 near Haws Avenue and Riverfront Park. They sell water, = drinks,=20 sunglasses and bike supplies. They have a bike repair area where, I = understand,=20 you can work on your own bike. They offer emergency service so that, if = you=20 break down, they will come out and help you.
    If you take out a = membership=20 they offer discounts of 20-30%. They have barbeques.
    On Saturday, May 22 = they are=20 having an open house from 9 am till dark. They have said that the DVBC = is=20 welcome to set up a table there that day and solicit new memberships.=20
    The man I spoke with = is named=20 Don and his phone number is 610-270-9750.
    I am not getting a = kickback for=20 this announcement.
    --Bob=20 LaDrew
------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C432E2.2A00A6E0-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 6 03:33:42 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:33:42 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Be the Bike Message-ID: <1ca.202afee0.2dcafe06@aol.com> --part1_1ca.202afee0.2dcafe06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting bike picture of the week. http://hinterlands.cc/index.php?s=df5330240be056833eccca3c453d011e& showtopic=88 --part1_1ca.202afee0.2dcafe06_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting bike picture of the wee= k.

http://hinterlands.cc/index.php?s=3Ddf5330240be056833eccca3c453d011e&sho= wtopic=3D88

--part1_1ca.202afee0.2dcafe06_boundary-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 5 13:45:40 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 08:45:40 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Baked Goodies Wanted In-Reply-To: <002301c4321b$15b05540$0a00010a@mycomputer> Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-0bac5dca-f05d-4aa5-b888-0cbdc2bb7227 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00461A5585256E8B_=" --=_alternative 00461A5585256E8B_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Bob, I'll bring something...just don't know what yet. I am helping with registration so I'll have it with me. Is that ok? "B or J LaDrew" <2ladrews@netreach.net> Sent by: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org 05/04/2004 05:01 PM Please respond to list@dvbc.org To cc Subject [DVBC] Baked Goodies Wanted Hello DVBC members-- Home-baked goodies go a long way toward making a favorable impression at a club tour. We would greatly appreciate any tasty treats you can bake up to contribute to the club's cause at the Bonkers Metric on May 16th. Thanks! --Bob LaDrew & the Board ForwardSourceID:NT000083A2 --=_alternative 00461A5585256E8B_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Bob, I'll bring something...just don't know what yet.  I am helping with registration so I'll have it with me.  Is that ok?



"B or J LaDrew" <2ladrews@netreach.net>
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    Hello DVBC members--
    Home-baked goodies go a long way toward making a favorable impression at a club tour. We would greatly appreciate any tasty treats you can bake up to contribute to the club's cause at the Bonkers Metric on May 16th.
    Thanks!
    --Bob LaDrew & the Board
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--=_alternative 00461A5585256E8B_=-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-0bac5dca-f05d-4aa5-b888-0cbdc2bb7227-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 6 07:54:00 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Bob Leon) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 02:54:00 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] thanks Message-ID: Dear members, I want to thank all of those who sent cards and phoned me while I was in the hospital. I’d like to thank those responsible for sending e-mails to the list with thoughts of me while they rode their bikes; it sure brought smiles and a tear. Can I count your miles at the end of the year? I am doing better than expected and hope to be back in the saddle by the end of the month. Thanks again and I am just a phone call away. I miss the open road, the sun on my face and camaraderie of my cycling friends. Keep the rubber side down. Bob Leon From list@dvbc.org Thu May 6 13:06:49 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:06:49 EDT Subject: [DVBC] thanks Message-ID: <144.289e7264.2dcb8459@aol.com> -------------------------------1083845209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bob, Great to hear that you are home and doing well. Can't wait to ride with you again! ED -------------------------------1083845209 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Bob,
 
    Great to hear that you are home and doing well. Can'= t wait to ride with you again!
 
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-------------------------------1083845209-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 6 13:14:08 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:14:08 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Bob's ride Message-ID: <1c1.18a5ff27.2dcb8610@aol.com> -------------------------------1083845648 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, When Bob Leon is ready for a group ride I think we should squeeze a day in and set it aside and all join him on a nice ride over in Jersey perhaps. I don't know about everyone else but he has been an inspiration to me and I am rejoicing that he is home and doing well. -------------------------------1083845648 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
    When Bob Leon is ready for a group ride I think we s= hould squeeze a day in and set it aside and all join him on a nice ride over= in Jersey perhaps. I don't know about everyone else but he has been an insp= iration to me and I am rejoicing that he is home and doing well.
-------------------------------1083845648-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 6 18:27:22 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 13:27:22 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Be the Bike Message-ID: <8191410.1083864442611.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com> ------=_Part_2218_7183735.1083864442597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How did you get this picture of Lance Armstrong's new TT bike that is being developed in secret in China? I hear it has 1/2 the rolling resistance of last years TT machine :-) On Wednesday, May 05, 2004, at 10:33PM, wrote: > ><> ---------------- Dave Hartrum dhartrum@mac.com ------=_Part_2218_7183735.1083864442597 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting bike picture of the we= ek.

http://hinterlands.cc/index.php?s=3Ddf5330240be056833eccca3c453d011e&sh= owtopic=3D88

------=_Part_2218_7183735.1083864442597-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 6 19:55:16 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Eric Valencia) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 14:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DVBC] [Fwd: Schuylkill Trail] Message-ID: <1067.209.204.69.51.1083869716.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> ------=_20040506145516_34464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can anyone help this gentleman out? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Schuylkill Trail From: "Cooley, Matthew (DSCP)" Date: Mon, May 3, 2004 2:12 pm To: "'vicepresident@dvbc.org'" Hello: I am sorry to bother you. I am planning to ride from Conshohocken to Gilbertsville via the newly completed (from what I hear) Schuylkill River bike trail. Can you confirm that the trail does in fact go uninterrupted up to Reading, as I have heard? Is there anything I should know before I go? Are there any sections that are not suitable for a road bike, which I will be riding? And do you know of a good exit marker for Gilbertsville? I will be heading near to the intersection of Swamp Pike and Gilbertsville Road, if that means anything, and would like to ride as much as possible on trail. Thank you very much for your help. Matt Cooley 215 737-0449 ------=_20040506145516_34464 Content-Type: text/html; name="untitled-2" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="untitled-2" Schuylkill Trail

Hello:
I am sorry to bother you.  I am planning to ride from Conshohocken to Gilbertsville via the newly completed (from what I hear) Schuylkill River bike trail.  Can you confirm that the trail does in fact go uninterrupted up to Reading, as I have heard?  Is there anything I should know before I go?  Are there any sections that are not suitable for a road bike, which I will be riding?  And do you know of a good exit marker for Gilbertsville?  I will be heading near to the intersection of Swamp Pike and Gilbertsville Road, if that means anything, and would like to ride as much as possible on trail. 

Thank you very much for your help.
Matt Cooley
215 737-0449

------=_20040506145516_34464-- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 7 03:07:26 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 22:07:26 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Drew Message-ID: -------------------------------1083895645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit good to see you on byers and 401 a long ride from delco good talking to you. -------------------------------1083895645 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good to see you on byers and 401 a long ride from delco good talking to y= ou. -------------------------------1083895645-- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 7 14:47:48 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Eric Valencia) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DVBC] Last night's paint 'drive' In-Reply-To: <1FC5532D6B96D411874200D0B782DA880B1A9826@phl01-msx-04.ikon.org> References: <1FC5532D6B96D411874200D0B782DA880B1A9826@phl01-msx-04.ikon.org> Message-ID: <1063.209.204.89.101.1083937668.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> Much thanks to Dom for the extra effort. Let's all be super optimistic about tomorrow's forecast. Come out and help us paint sections of the route tomorrow, Saturday at 8:30am, Ridley Creek State Park, lot #15. Don't bring your "show" bike! ;) Eric From list@dvbc.org Fri May 7 15:52:00 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:52:00 EDT Subject: [DVBC] (no subject) Message-ID: <11.28cf119a.2dccfc90@aol.com> -------------------------------1083941519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone please advise me who Bicycle971@aol.com is? -------------------------------1083941519 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone please advise me who Bi= cycle971@aol.com is? -------------------------------1083941519-- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 7 15:58:41 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:58:41 EDT Subject: [DVBC] last nights ride Message-ID: <142.28d264f1.2dccfe21@aol.com> -------------------------------1083941921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jerry, Just wanted thank you for being so understanding last night on my ride when we had to separate on Ridley Creek Rd. I would always take all riders to the finish, but there were un normal circumstances. I got Amber back to Cycle Sport OK. Even though we had to ride some more hills I think that was the best way and also kept her safe and out of traffic. ED -------------------------------1083941921 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Jerry,
 
    Just wanted thank you for being so understanding las= t night on my ride when we had to separate on Ridley Creek Rd. I would alway= s take all riders to the finish, but there were un normal circumstances.
 
    I got Amber back to Cycle Sport OK. Even though we h= ad to ride some more hills I think that was the best way and also kept her s= afe and out of traffic.
 
 
              &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp; ED
-------------------------------1083941921-- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 7 19:32:14 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 14:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DVBC] [Fwd: [WCBC] Lance's Chamois Cream] Message-ID: <54099.207.69.137.202.1083954734.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [WCBC] Lance's Chamois Cream From: Mario Nappa Date: Fri, May 7, 2004 12:11 pm To: wcbc@topica.com =========================================================== Empower your Team with Remote Access. GoToMyPC Pro provides your organization with instant remote access to email,files, applications and network resources in real time. 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Start getting your legs in shape now! ================================================= --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: queenofsheba@craftech.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2iY3V.a5pNtZ.cXVlZW5v Or send an email to: wcbc-unsubscribe@topica.com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^---------------------------------------------------------------- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 7 20:29:48 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Pete LaVerghetta) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:29:48 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream In-Reply-To: <54099.207.69.137.202.1083954734.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> Message-ID: <000201c43469$a8e1fe90$8be85044@DD0LV321> Assos? I don't think he would give them a plug since they are not a sponsor. If you are not Bristol/Myers/Squibb, Nike, Trek, Chris Carmichael or PowerBar you don't get a mention by Lance. Anyway, I occasionally use ButtButter which is cheaper. Have fun, Pete > > If you watched The Lance Chronicles last night on OLN, you > saw Lance liberally applying a chamois cream which he would > not divulge the name of since it has cured all of his > problems with saddle sores, a bikerider's nemesis. On my > last 9-day and 810 mile tour, this was a major problem for > me. > > Thanks to the latest RBR newsletter, the identity of this > magic cream is now available. They were able to rewind the > video tape and zero in on the name of the cream and they > mentioned the name. > > I was able to find it on the web and ordered a jar, which > most suppliers will be soon out of once the word hits the > street. It's kind of pricey. Check out the RBR newsletter > for all the details. > > RoadBikeRider.com Newsletter > Issue No. 143 - 05/06/04: Radio Voices > ISSN 1536-4143 > > Mario > From list@dvbc.org Sat May 8 00:48:12 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 23:48:12 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream Message-ID: <050720042348.24766.409C203C000201A8000060BE2200735834FFB4B0ADB8B6AAAD@comcast.net> Udder butter, Udderly Moo, and Bag Balm I've seen and used. (first two less greasy) From list@dvbc.org Sat May 8 00:48:12 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 23:48:12 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream Message-ID: <050720042348.24766.409C203C000201A8000060BE2200735834FFB4B0ADB8B6AAAD@comcast.net> Udder butter, Udderly Moo, and Bag Balm I've seen and used. (first two less greasy) From list@dvbc.org Sat May 8 00:58:42 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Pete LaVerghetta) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 19:58:42 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream In-Reply-To: <050720042348.24766.409C203C000201A8000060BE2200735834FFB4B0ADB8B6AAAD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000001c4348f$3ab75e80$8be85044@DD0LV321> Not for human consumption! Seriously, Bag Balm probably comes in five gallon pails, way low cost per once, not like the fancy schmancy stuff. See ya, Pete > > Udder butter, Udderly Moo, and Bag Balm I've seen and used. (first two > less greasy) From list@dvbc.org Sat May 8 11:29:23 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 06:29:23 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Walt Linton Message-ID: <87.b45f274.2dce1083@aol.com> -------------------------------1084012163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to those who responded with all to your info on Walt. He had actually wrote a couple emails to me and mailed me some info on the Shore to Shore Century without telling me his name, just had his email, bicycle971. Walt, thanks for mailing me the brochure. Unfortunately I will be away that weekend up Hunter Mountain. Look forward to meeting you someday. ED -------------------------------1084012163 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to those who responded with all to your info on Walt. He had act= ually wrote a couple emails to me and mailed me some info on the Shore to Sh= ore Century without telling me his name, just had his email, bicycle971.
 
Walt, thanks for mailing me the brochure. Unfortunately I will be away=20= that weekend up Hunter Mountain. Look forward to meeting you someday.
 
 
              &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;     ED
-------------------------------1084012163-- From list@dvbc.org Sat May 8 19:31:07 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Michael J. Willner) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [DVBC] Paoli Ramble Message-ID: <20040508183107.12338.qmail@web106.biz.mail.yahoo.com> --0-581827664-1084041067=:11592 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just wanted to thank Henry and Bob for doing such a great job leading today's ride to the burbs and back on a beautiful Saturday in May. Okay, maybe I am stretching the truth a little. Thanks again, Mike --0-581827664-1084041067=:11592 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Just wanted to thank Henry and Bob for doing such a great job leading today's ride to the burbs and back on a beautiful Saturday in May.
 
Okay, maybe I am stretching the truth a little.
 
Thanks again, Mike
--0-581827664-1084041067=:11592-- From list@dvbc.org Sat May 8 23:50:04 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 18:50:04 EDT Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream Message-ID: <67.289572db.2dcebe1c@aol.com> --part1_67.289572db.2dcebe1c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I knew it was Assos right away, I recognized the container. It's save my tush for years. jill --part1_67.289572db.2dcebe1c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I knew it was Assos right away, I r= ecognized the container.  It's save my tush for years.

jill --part1_67.289572db.2dcebe1c_boundary-- From list@dvbc.org Sun May 9 20:41:29 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 15:41:29 EDT Subject: [DVBC] todays ride Message-ID: <6d.290bc9a1.2dcfe369@aol.com> -------------------------------1084131689 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Just got in from the Marsh Creek ride and would like to thank the other riders Ed S., Jim Walls, Bill Robb and Ira for making it such an enjoyable ride. What a day it turned out to be! Ed Becker -------------------------------1084131689 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
    Just got in from the Marsh Creek ride and would like= to thank the other riders Ed S., Jim Walls, Bill Robb and Ira for making it= such an enjoyable ride. What a day it turned out to be!
 
 
              &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;     Ed Becker 
-------------------------------1084131689-- From list@dvbc.org Mon May 10 03:58:07 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:58:07 EDT Subject: [DVBC] [Fwd: Schuylkill Trail] Message-ID: <156.349694b0.2dd049bf@cs.com> --part1_156.349694b0.2dd049bf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt, I recommend that before you lead any ride you should ride it yourself or with a friend. There are many things that are not apparent from a map. Glenn Lyons --part1_156.349694b0.2dd049bf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt,     I rec= ommend that before you lead any ride you should ride it yourself or with a f= riend.  There are many things that are not apparent from a map. &n= bsp;      Glenn Lyons --part1_156.349694b0.2dd049bf_boundary-- From list@dvbc.org Mon May 10 15:27:20 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:27:20 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] DVBC meeting ? Message-ID: <16449507.1084199240649.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com> Is there a DVBC meeting at Friends in Springfield tonight? I didn't see it on the calendar but if there was a meeting this is the usual night. ---------------- Dave Hartrum dhartrum@mac.com From list@dvbc.org Mon May 10 15:41:01 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:41:01 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] DVBC meeting ? In-Reply-To: <16449507.1084199240649.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040510103903.02dc8900@pop3.craftech.com> Yes, there is a bike maintenance clinic by Woody and Bob Martin. Tony At 10:27 AM 5/10/04 -0400, you wrote: >Is there a DVBC meeting at Friends in Springfield tonight? I didn't see it >on the calendar but if there was a meeting this is the usual night. From list@dvbc.org Mon May 10 15:41:26 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Trout) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:41:26 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Delaware Valley Birding Club Message-ID: <004f01c4369c$df957a90$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C4367B.581BF100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The DVBC (Delware Valley Birding Club) had a really nice Kountry Kitchen = ride on Saturday. Six people fought the wind down to the KK and then = got blown back to Kingsway. On the way back we passd a wetlands area = and were joined on the ride by a large Blue Heron who flew along with us = for a while. First a Turkey now a Blue Heron - should we start keeping = an offical list? Dave ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C4367B.581BF100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The DVBC (Delware Valley Birding Club) = had a=20 really nice Kountry Kitchen  ride on Saturday.  Six people = fought the=20 wind down to the KK and then got blown back to Kingsway.  On the = way back=20 we passd a wetlands area and were joined on the ride by a large Blue = Heron who=20 flew along with us for a while.  First a Turkey now a Blue Heron - = should=20 we start keeping an offical list?
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C4367B.581BF100-- From list@dvbc.org Mon May 10 15:52:04 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:52:04 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Delaware Valley Birding Club Message-ID: <1e.290b045e.2dd0f114@aol.com> -------------------------------1084200724 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you blame them for trying to join in on all the fun that we are having. -------------------------------1084200724 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you blame them for trying to join in on all the fun that we are having= . -------------------------------1084200724-- From list@dvbc.org Mon May 10 16:40:46 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Trout) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:40:46 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Delaware Valley Birding Club References: <1e.290b045e.2dd0f114@aol.com> Message-ID: <001d01c436a5$2a132ce0$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C43683.A29CD7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or is what we are doing for the birds? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com=20 To: list@dvbc.org=20 Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [DVBC] Delaware Valley Birding Club Do you blame them for trying to join in on all the fun that we are = having. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C43683.A29CD7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Or is what we are doing for the = birds?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 = 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [DVBC] Delaware = Valley=20 Birding Club

Do you blame them for trying to join in on all the fun = that we=20 are having. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C43683.A29CD7A0-- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 01:15:12 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:15:12 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Tuesday eve ride Message-ID: <051120040015.1098.40A01B100001CC470000044A2200734076FFCCC9CFC6CE9B9A9A8F8C9A8B96@comcast.net> If anyone is interested in joining me, I will be riding from Rose Tree Park tomorrow evening at 6 pm, weather permitting. C+/B- pace, about 20-25 miles. -Christine From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 02:38:36 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Eric Valencia) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream In-Reply-To: <000001c4348f$3ab75e80$8be85044@DD0LV321> References: <050720042348.24766.409C203C000201A8000060BE2200735834FFB4B0ADB8B6AAAD@comcast.net> <000001c4348f$3ab75e80$8be85044@DD0LV321> Message-ID: <1110.207.106.69.28.1084239516.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> Sage cyclists, Where can I get this Bag Balm or Udder Butter? Eric > Not for human consumption! Seriously, Bag Balm probably comes in five > gallon pails, way low cost per once, not like the fancy schmancy stuff. > > See ya, > Pete > > >> >> Udder butter, Udderly Moo, and Bag Balm I've seen and used. (first two >> less greasy) > > > _______________________________________________ > DVBC mailing list > DVBC@list.dvbc.org > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 04:49:08 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:49:08 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream References: <050720042348.24766.409C203C000201A8000060BE2200735834FFB4B0ADB8B6AAAD@comcast.net> <000001c4348f$3ab75e80$8be85044@DD0LV321> <1110.207.106.69.28.1084239516.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> Message-ID: <002e01c4370a$ea915450$53456acf@home> According to bagbalm.com, you can find it anywhere. And Btw, I travelled over some of the Bonkers route Sunday and the markings look very good. Ira ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Valencia" To: Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream > Sage cyclists, > Where can I get this Bag Balm or Udder Butter? > > Eric > > > > Not for human consumption! Seriously, Bag Balm probably comes in five > > gallon pails, way low cost per once, not like the fancy schmancy stuff. > > > > See ya, > > Pete > > > > > >> > >> Udder butter, Udderly Moo, and Bag Balm I've seen and used. (first two > >> less greasy) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > DVBC mailing list > > DVBC@list.dvbc.org > > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc > > > > _______________________________________________ > DVBC mailing list > DVBC@list.dvbc.org > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc > > From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 05:12:45 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Larry Green) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:12:45 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream In-Reply-To: <002e01c4370a$ea915450$53456acf@home> References: <050720042348.24766.409C203C000201A8000060BE2200735834FFB4B0ADB8B6AAAD@comcast.net> <000001c4348f$3ab75e80$8be85044@DD0LV321> <1110.207.106.69.28.1084239516.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> <002e01c4370a$ea915450$53456acf@home> Message-ID: <40A052BD.4010903@earthlink.net> Ira Josephs wrote: >According to bagbalm.com, you can find it anywhere. >And Btw, I travelled over some of the Bonkers route Sunday and the markings >look very good. >Ira > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eric Valencia" >To: >Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:38 PM >Subject: Re: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream > > > > >>Sage cyclists, >>Where can I get this Bag Balm or Udder Butter? >> >>Eric >> >> >> >> >>>Not for human consumption! Seriously, Bag Balm probably comes in five >>>gallon pails, way low cost per once, not like the fancy schmancy stuff. >>> >>>See ya, >>>Pete >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Udder butter, Udderly Moo, and Bag Balm I've seen and used. (first two >>>>less greasy) >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>DVBC mailing list >>>DVBC@list.dvbc.org >>>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>DVBC mailing list >>DVBC@list.dvbc.org >>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc >> >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >DVBC mailing list >DVBC@list.dvbc.org >http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc > > > CVS has both. From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 05:21:41 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:21:41 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Bike To Work Day Message-ID: <001b01c4370f$76b161b0$53456acf@home> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C436ED.EEE10590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bike to Work Day in Media is Friday May 21. Please plan to ride in to = the Courthouse courtyard on North Orange St.around 8 am or so for free = breakfast, giveaways, info and our raffle. If you want, you can get = details +/or enter the raffle on line at = http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/planning/. For the raffle, you need to live or work in DelCo and pledge to bike to = work some time that week.(It could also be to do an errand or biking to = school etc.) If you can lead a ride to the event or want to ride with a group, let me = know. 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Bike to Work=20 Day in Media is Friday May 21. Please = plan to=20 ride in  to the Courthouse courtyard on North Orange St.around = 8=20 am or so for free breakfast,  giveaways, info and our = raffle. If=20 you want, you can get details +/or enter the raffle on line at http://www.co.delaware.pa= .us/planning/.
For the raffle, you need to live or = work in DelCo=20 and pledge to bike to work some time that week.(It could also be to do = an errand=20 or biking to school etc.)
If you can lead a ride to the event or = want to ride=20 with a group, let me know.
Ira Josephs
ira@dvbc.org
610 565 4058
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C436ED.EEE10590-- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 18:15:08 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:15:08 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Hunter Mountain Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040511131406.02e7eec0@pop3.craftech.com> Weekend Getaway in Hunter Mountain NY. For those interested, we will leave Media PA on Friday June 11st at 9:00 AM, and drive upstate NY to Durham where we will stay at the Rose Motel. Upon arrival, we can do a 20+ mile ride to stretch the legs before we have our dinner. I have made arrangements with a local Italian restaurant to cater us a meal for both Friday and Saturday night. For those staying until Monday, we can go to a different restaurant to change the pace a little. On Saturday I have a 60+- mile ride planned, (with a 50 mile option,depending on how we feel), with a MAJOR climb up to Hunter's Mountain taxing grades. This will be a 6.4 mile climb before we descend for a mile or so and go back up. Look at the bright side guys... there will be plenty of down hills on the way back down to the Motel. On Sunday, I planned another 60+ mile ride with one MAJOR climb for 5.5 miles that will continue with some rollers in between for 12.2 miles. We will then face a 13 mile climb to Hunter Mountain, but this time it's only at 2 to 3% grade with an almost guarantied tail wind. Peace of cake. Of course a lot of down hills will also brighten our day for a nice ride back to the Motel last 7 mile down hill. For those leaving on Sunday, we'll say goodbye and then go do some site seeing before dinner. For Monday, I have a 50 mile planned with a few long climbs but much easier. This rides are mapped for A riders but everyone is welcome. I have a few flatter routes planned for B riders that option not to do the major climbs. A gearing of 39 x 27 is recommended for this rides. And if you have a triple, you have nothing to worry about... It will just take you longer to get to the top :) I'm estimating the cost to be around $75.00 per day including, Motel, Breakfast, Dinner and snacks for after the rides. I'll ask you to please pay in advance so I have the cash on hand to pay for the expenses. Gas will also be divided since we are going to car pool. On the list now is: Tony, Monika, Katrina, Jennifer, Javier, Ed S, Ed B, Eric, Louis, Brian Wade. We also had Woody, but is dropping in favor to do another 150 mile training ride to Avalon for his 200 mile ride. Somehow he doesn't think we will be doing enough riding in HM :) You can look at the planned ride profiles at http://www.dvbc.org/hmprofiles.html, and you can also look at our last trip at http://www.dvbc.org/NY2002/index.html Final arrangements for Motel reservations must be made soon. Call Tony for details and to reserve your spot. 484-802-8374 or tony@dvbc.org Tony ----------------------------------------------- Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 CrafTech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com ----------------------------------------------- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 18:19:13 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:19:13 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Bag Balm and stuff Message-ID: <051120041719.8206.40A10B110002DCFC0000200E2200734830FFB4B0ADB8B6AAAD@comcast.net> I have gotten Bag Balm (green cans with a cow face and udders on it) at Walgreens and some hardware stores (Agway also) Udder butter at Agway..Udderly sMOOth at Rite Aid and hardware stores. look where the body cremes are (seriously). Stuff is used for bedsores and other body abrasions. all cheap. From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 19:01:13 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (phil morris) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [DVBC] Bike To Work Day In-Reply-To: <001b01c4370f$76b161b0$53456acf@home> Message-ID: <20040511180113.864.qmail@web41010.mail.yahoo.com> Ira, I'm still willing to lead a ride. How do we post it so other people will know when/where to start? I'd like to set it up to start at about 7am and get into Media by 8am. Let me know what I need to do. Thanks -Phil --- Ira Josephs wrote: > Bike to Work Day in Media is Friday May 21. Please plan to > ride in to the Courthouse courtyard on North Orange St.around > 8 am or so for free breakfast, giveaways, info and our > raffle. If you want, you can get details +/or enter the raffle > on line at http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/planning/. > For the raffle, you need to live or work in DelCo and pledge > to bike to work some time that week.(It could also be to do an > errand or biking to school etc.) > If you can lead a ride to the event or want to ride with a > group, let me know. > Ira Josephs > ira@dvbc.org > 610 565 4058 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From list@dvbc.org Tue May 11 21:33:25 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Bob Leon) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:33:25 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] FW: Lehigh Valley Velodrome to Hold Open Time Trial Series Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C43775.AE966650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ccs.craftech.com id i4BKXOOQ007388 -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Burns [mailto:jake@lvvelo.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:29 PM To: jake@lvvelo.org Subject: Lehigh Valley Velodrome to Hold Open Time Trial Series News Release Contact: Jory Reinhart P. O. Box 880, Trexlertown, PA 18087-0880 610.395.7000 fax: 610.395.7393 www.lvvelo.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 11, 2004 Lehigh Valley Velodrome to Hold Open Time Trial Series (Lehigh Valley, PA)=97The Lehigh Valley Velodrome announced today that an= open time trial series for all age groups (Juniors, Masters, and Seniors) will= be held Wednesday, June 9, Sunday, July 11, and Wednesday August 18, 2004. =93I=92m very excited for this program because it will expose new riders = to the track, but will also give experienced riders an opportunity to participat= e in Olympic-style time trial events,=94 said Jacob Burns, Lehigh Valley Velodrome Marketing Director. Through the time trial series, the Velodrome hopes to increase participat= ion in the sport of track cycling. Riders need not have a USA Cycling licens= e prior to the event because they may purchase a one-day license. Riders may use their own bikes (track bikes are not necessary) and need n= o track cycling experience. =93We=92re looking for future Olympic talent,=94= said Burns, =93We hope to attract everything from novice riders to elite tri-athletes.=94 The Olympic events to take place are the 4000m TT, 3000m TT, 2000m TT, 50= 0m TT, 200m TT, and 1km TT. Starting gates will be available during the ser= ies for those who would like to use them. The cost of entry is $5.00 per eve= nt each day of the series. The event times are 6:00pm until 10:00pm on June= 9 and August 18, and noon until 4:00pm on July 11. Registration for events begins an hour before the event times, and lasts throughout the duration = of the event. For more information about the 2004 Open Time Trial Series at the Lehigh Valley Velodrome, visit the Velodrome website at www.lvvelo.org or call 610-395-7000. About the Lehigh Valley Velodrome The Lehigh Valley Velodrome, the East Coast's only professional track cycling venue located in Trexlertown, PA by the intersection of Routes 22= 2 and 100, is less than one hour from most Philadelphia suburbs. Experienc= e international racing Friday nights from June 4 through September 18, 2004. Gates open at 6:00pm and race action begins at 7:00pm. Coming in 2004 th= e USA Cycling Fastest Man on Wheels September 3-4 and the Penn State Lehigh Valley Collegiate National Track Cycling Championships September 16-18. = For more information on racing, volunteering, community programs, VIP entertaining or corporate sponsorship, visit our website at www.lvvelo.or= g or call 610.395.7000. ### If you would like to be removed from the Velodrome e-UPDATE list please respond to this e-mail with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject field. 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-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Burns=20 [mailto:jake@lvvelo.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:29=20 PM
To: jake@lvvelo.org
Subject: Lehigh Valley = Velodrome to=20 Hold Open Time Trial Series

News=20 Release

 

Contact: Jory Reinhart=20

P.=20 O. Box 880,=20 Trexlertown,=20 PA 18087-0880

610.395.7000=20 fax: 610.395.7393

www.lvvelo.org=20

 

FOR = IMMEDIATE RELEASE

May 11,=20 2004

 

Lehigh=20 Valley Velodrome to Hold Open Time Trial Series

 

(Lehigh=20 Valley, PA)=97The=20 Lehigh Valley Velodrome announced today that an open time trial series = for all=20 age groups (Juniors, Masters, and Seniors) will be held Wednesday, June = 9,=20 Sunday, July 11, and Wednesday August 18, 2004.

 

=93I=92m very=20 excited for this program because it will expose new riders to the track, = but=20 will also give experienced riders an opportunity to participate in = Olympic-style=20 time trial events,=94 said Jacob Burns, Lehigh Valley Velodrome = Marketing=20 Director.

 

Through=20 the time trial series, the Velodrome hopes to increase participation in = the=20 sport of track cycling.  = Riders need=20 not have a USA Cycling license prior to the event because they may = purchase a=20 one-day license.

 

Riders=20 may use their own bikes (track bikes are not necessary) and need no = track=20 cycling experience.  = =93We=92re looking=20 for future Olympic talent,=94 said Burns, =93We hope to attract = everything from=20 novice riders to elite tri-athletes.=94

 

The = Olympic events to take place are the 4000m TT, 3000m TT, 2000m TT, 500m = TT, 200m=20 TT, and 1km TT.  Starting = gates will=20 be available during the series for those who would like to use = them.  The cost of entry is $5.00 per = event=20 each day of the series.  = The event=20 times are 6:00pm until 10:00pm on June 9 and August 18, and noon until = 4:00pm on=20 July 11.  Registration for = events=20 begins an hour before the event times, and lasts throughout the duration = of the=20 event.

 

For more information about the 2004 = Open Time=20 Trial Series at the Lehigh Valley Velodrome, visit the Velodrome website = at www.lvvelo.org or call = 610-395-7000.   =

 

About the Lehigh Valley=20 Velodrome

The=20 Lehigh Valley Velodrome, the East Coast's only professional track = cycling venue=20 located in Trexlertown, PA by the intersection of Routes 222 and 100, is = less=20 than one hour from most Philadelphia suburbs.  Experience international = racing Friday=20 nights from June 4 through September 18, 2004. Gates open at 6:00pm and = race=20 action begins at 7:00pm.  = Coming in=20 2004 the USA Cycling Fastest Man on Wheels September 3-4 and the Penn = State=20 Lehigh Valley Collegiate National Track Cycling Championships September=20 16-18.  For more = information on=20 racing, volunteering, community programs, VIP entertaining or corporate=20 sponsorship, visit our website at www.lvvelo.org or call=20 610.395.7000.

###

 

If you would = like to=20 be removed from the Velodrome e-UPDATE list please respond to this = e-mail with=20 UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject field.

 

Jacob=20 Burns

Marketing=20 Director

Lehigh=20 Valley Velodrome

phone:=20 (610) 395-7000 x 225

fax:=20 (610) 395-7393

www.lvvelo.org

 

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C43775.AE966650-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 12 14:10:48 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:10:48 EDT Subject: [DVBC] June ride calander Message-ID: <55.5737263d.2dd37c58@aol.com> -------------------------------1084367448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Just a reminder that we are coming up on finalizing the ride calendar for the month of June. Does anyone have any more rides that they want to list? For anyone that has never listed a ride, if you have a favorite training loop that you do yourself, why not do it with some friends from DVBC. Or if you ride someone else's ride and would like to do it on a different scheduled day/time why not list it. I urge all members to at least try listing a ride at least once. It is a commitment, and it's not for everyone, but you may end up liking it as I did. If not at least you tried it and there's nothing wrong with that. If you need help in setting up a ride you may contact me. Ed Becker -------------------------------1084367448 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
    Just a reminder that we are coming up on finalizing=20= the ride calendar for the month of June. Does anyone have any more rides tha= t they want to list?
 
    For anyone that has never listed a ride, if you have= a favorite training loop that you do yourself, why not do it with some frie= nds from DVBC. Or if you ride someone else's ride and would like to do it on= a different scheduled day/time why not list it. I urge all members to at le= ast try listing a ride at least once. It is a commitment, and it's not for e= veryone, but you may end up liking it as I did. If not at least you tried it= and there's nothing wrong with that.  
 
    If you need help in setting up a ride you may contac= t me.
 
 
              &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;         Ed Becker
-------------------------------1084367448-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 12 17:21:04 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (John Boyle) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:21:04 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] News from the Bicycle Coalition Message-ID: <200405121621.i4CGLBEt029012@smtp-dtc05.proxy.aol.com> Fellow Cyclists The current edition of the Bicycle Coalition's newsletter "Cyclegram" is now posted online at www.bicyclecoalition.org. This edition includes 3 action alerts and includes a report from the Delaware County Committee. BCGP members should be getting a hard copy of the "Cyclegram" next week. ---- Bike on Bus Blitz - May 18 69th St Terminal 8:45 - 9:30am Please help show SEPTA that bikes on buses are important. Our goal is to put a bike on every bus bike rack coming in and out of the terminal. Bicycle Coalition personnel will be onsite to help those who are unfamiliar with the bus bike racks. A Bike on Bus demonstration video is online at www.bicyclecoalition.org/transit.htm Tokens will be provided for outbound riders and those who notify us that they will be participating in advance. For more info contact us at the BCGP info@bicyclecoalition.org or call Alex 215-242-9253 ---- Delaware County Bike to Work Day Media - Friday May 21 starts at 7:30am Government Complex The Bike to Work Days webpage http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/planning/BW_moreinfo.html includes info about discounts and rides And don't forget if you bike to work anytime during bike week you are eligible for raffle http://www2.co.delaware.pa.us/biketowork/biketowork.asp ---- Freedom Valley Bike Ride - Saturday June 19. New this year will be a 22 mile up and back on the Schuylkill River Trail and a 100 mile option to the Sheeder Covered Bridge in Chester County. Register online at http://www.bicyclecoalition.org/freedom_valley_ride.html ---- Trail construction contract's let or under construction: Radnor trail - Radnor Chester Road to Sugartown Rd, November completion Cobbs Creek Bikeway- (Philadelphia side) Market St to the Darby Bridge (Woodland Ave), Construction to start in the summer John Boyle john@bicyclecoalition.org From list@dvbc.org Wed May 12 18:43:09 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Trout) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:43:09 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] June ride calander References: <55.5737263d.2dd37c58@aol.com> Message-ID: <004b01c43848$97aee9c0$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C43827.102310B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, Your note brings up a point. I think that more people would lead rides = if there was some way to post ad hoc rides to the website. Right now = the only way to post a Ad Hoc ride is on the list and not all members = or people who would be interested in riding with our club are on the = list. I know that for me it is tough to figure out which weekends will = be free a month or more ahead of time, especially with family and (God = forbid) other interests besides biking. Many times I go out on training = rides or just exercise rides but I don't know about them way in advance. = The last couple of months I have listed two weekend rides in each month = and led another ad hoc ride each month as well. In June I have no rides = (except the regular Tuesday night ride) list because I have no idea what = days I will be available. So that makes it at least two less C rides = (which there seems very few of lately but that is another problem) in = the month of June. Dave __o __o __o __o = __o _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)/ = (_) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com=20 To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: [DVBC] June ride calander Hello All,=20 Just a reminder that we are coming up on finalizing the ride = calendar for the month of June. Does anyone have any more rides that = they want to list? For anyone that has never listed a ride, if you have a favorite = training loop that you do yourself, why not do it with some friends from = DVBC. Or if you ride someone else's ride and would like to do it on a = different scheduled day/time why not list it. I urge all members to at = least try listing a ride at least once. It is a commitment, and it's not = for everyone, but you may end up liking it as I did. If not at least you = tried it and there's nothing wrong with that. =20 If you need help in setting up a ride you may contact me. = Ed Becker ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C43827.102310B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ed,
 
Your note brings up a point. I think that = more=20 people would lead rides if there was some way to post ad hoc rides to = the=20 website.  Right now the only way to post a  Ad Hoc ride is on = the list=20 and not all members or people who would be interested in riding with our = club=20 are on the list.  I know that for me it is tough to figure out = which=20 weekends will be free a month or more ahead of time, especially with = family and=20 (God forbid) other interests besides biking.  Many times I go out = on=20 training rides or just exercise rides but I don't know about them = way in=20 advance.  The last couple of months I have listed two weekend rides = in each=20 month and led another ad hoc ride each month as well.  In June I = have no=20 rides (except the regular Tuesday night ride) list because I have no = idea what=20 days I will be available.  So that makes it at least two less C = rides=20 (which there seems very few of lately but that is another = problem) in the=20 month of June.
 
Dave
 
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 = 9:10=20 AM
Subject: [DVBC] June ride = calander

Hello All,
 
    Just a reminder that we are coming up on = finalizing=20 the ride calendar for the month of June. Does anyone have any more = rides that=20 they want to list?
 
    For anyone that has never listed a ride, if = you have a=20 favorite training loop that you do yourself, why not do it with some = friends=20 from DVBC. Or if you ride someone else's ride and would like to do it = on a=20 different scheduled day/time why not list it. I urge all members to at = least=20 try listing a ride at least once. It is a commitment, and it's not for = everyone, but you may end up liking it as I did. If not at least you = tried it=20 and there's nothing wrong with that.  
 
    If you need help in setting up a ride you may = contact=20 me.
 
 
           =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             Ed=20 Becker
------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C43827.102310B0-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 12 20:13:42 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:13:42 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] June ride calander In-Reply-To: <004b01c43848$97aee9c0$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> References: <55.5737263d.2dd37c58@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040512151154.02daccf0@pop3.craftech.com> --=====================_21597229==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I don't think giving everyone access to post to the web site is a good idea. Unless you have a lot of time on your hands and would like to monitor all the crap that will get posted from people just playing around. If there is an ad hoc ride, you can always send it to rides@dvbc.org and we'll be more then happy to post it for you. Tony At 01:43 PM 5/12/04 -0400, you wrote: >Ed, > >Your note brings up a point. I think that more people would lead rides if >there was some way to post ad hoc rides to the website. Right now the >only way to post a Ad Hoc ride is on the list and not all members or >people who would be interested in riding with our club are on the list. I >know that for me it is tough to figure out which weekends will be free a >month or more ahead of time, especially with family and (God forbid) other >interests besides biking. Many times I go out on training rides or just >exercise rides but I don't know about them way in advance. The last >couple of months I have listed two weekend rides in each month and led >another ad hoc ride each month as well. In June I have no rides (except >the regular Tuesday night ride) list because I have no idea what days I >will be available. So that makes it at least two less C rides (which >there seems very few of lately but that is another problem) in the month >of June. > >Dave > > __o __o __o __o __o > _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ _`\<,_ >(_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) --=====================_21597229==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think giving everyone access to post to the web site is a good idea. Unless you have a lot of time on your hands and would like to monitor all the crap that will get posted from people just playing around.

If there is an ad hoc ride, you can always send it to rides@dvbc.org and we'll be more then happy to post it for you.

Tony


At 01:43 PM 5/12/04 -0400, you wrote:
Ed,  
Your note brings up a point. I think that more people would lead rides if there was some way to post ad hoc rides to the website.  Right now the only way to post a  Ad Hoc ride is on the list and not all members or people who would be interested in riding with our club are on the list.  I know that for me it is tough to figure out which weekends will be free a month or more ahead of time, especially with family and (God forbid) other interests besides biking.  Many times I go out on training rides or just exercise rides but I don't know about them way in advance.  The last couple of months I have listed two weekend rides in each month and led another ad hoc ride each month as well.  In June I have no rides (except the regular Tuesday night ride) list because I have no idea what days I will be available.  So that makes it at least two less C rides (which there seems very few of lately but that is another problem) in the month of June.
 
Dave
 
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--=====================_21597229==_.ALT-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 04:43:46 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:43:46 EDT Subject: [DVBC] maybe Message-ID: -------------------------------1084419826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A bike race up hear on saturday sources say if anyone has seen those arrows up birdell and other roads. Shirks had fliers this person said this maybe false not sure can anyone find out let the race fans know on the list serve. -------------------------------1084419826 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A bike race up hear on saturday sources say if anyone has seen those arro= ws up birdell and other roads. Shirks had fliers this person said this maybe= false not sure can anyone find out let the race fans know on the list serve= .  -------------------------------1084419826-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 10:22:18 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Pete LaVerghetta) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 05:22:18 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] maybe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c438cb$c9e32680$8be85044@DD0LV321> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C438AA.42D18680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.majorleaguecycling.com/Union%20Grove%20Road%20Race.htm http://www.majorleaguecycling.com/events.htm I guess someone is asking about a road race that they hear is supposed to take place this weekend in Lancaster County. Shirk's is a bike shop in Lancaster. Regards, Pete -----Original Message----- From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On Behalf Of Bycycle971@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:44 PM To: list@dvbc.org Subject: [DVBC] maybe A bike race up hear on saturday sources say if anyone has seen those arrows up birdell and other roads. Shirks had fliers this person said this maybe false not sure can anyone find out let the race fans know on the list serve. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C438AA.42D18680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://www.majorleaguecycling.com/Union%20Grove%20Road%20Race.htm

 

 

http://www.majorlea= guecycling.com/events.htm

 

I guess someone is asking = about a road race that they hear is supposed to take place this weekend in = Lancaster = County. Shirk’s = is a bike shop in Lancaster<= /font>.

 

Regards,

Pete

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: = dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On = Behalf Of Bycycle971@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:44 = PM
To: list@dvbc.org
Subject: [DVBC] = maybe

 

A bike race up hear on saturday sources say if anyone = has seen those arrows up birdell and other roads. Shirks had fliers this = person said this maybe false not sure can anyone find out let the race fans = know on the list serve. 

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C438AA.42D18680-- From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 11:22:33 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Pete LaVerghetta) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 06:22:33 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Spotted: Message-ID: <000001c438d4$3482dc30$8be85044@DD0LV321> A picture of DVBCs own Dr. Larry Green was spotted in today's Philadelphia Inquirer, F5. Larry was enjoying a 2002 pinot noir. I'm more of a cabernet man myself.... Regards, Pete LaVerghetta Cheltenham PA From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 12:01:22 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Trout) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 07:01:22 -0400 Subject: [Re: [DVBC] June ride calander] Message-ID: <382iemLBw1712S07.1084446082@uwdvg007.cms.usa.net>

I never = advocated "giving everyone access" to post to the website.  My sugge= stion was that there would be  "some way" for members to get there A= d Hoc rides on the website.  And you found "someway" by sending it t= o rides@dvbc.  I thank you.=

Dave

"Sometim= es you never expect "The Spanish Inquistion"", Monty Python.


Antonio Rocha <tony@dvbc.org> wrote:

I don't think giving everyone access to pos= t to the web site is a good idea. Unless you have a lot of time on your h= ands and would like to monitor all the crap that will get posted from peo= ple just playing around.

If there is an ad hoc ride, you can alway= s send it to rides@dvbc.org and we'll be more then happy to post it for y= ou.

Tony


At 01:43 PM 5/12/04 -0400, you wrote:
Ed,<= /FONT>
 
Your note brings up a point. I th= ink that more people would lead rides if there was some way to post ad ho= c rides to the website.  Right now the only way to post a  Ad H= oc ride is on the list and not all members or people who would be interes= ted in riding with our club are on the list.  I know that for me it = is tough to figure out which weekends will be free a month or more ahead = of time, especially with family and (God forbid) other interests besides = biking.  Many times I go out on training rides or just exercise ride= s but I don't know about them way in advance.  The last couple of mo= nths I have listed two weekend rides in each month and led another ad hoc= ride each month as well.  In June I have no rides (except the regul= ar Tuesday night ride) list because I have no idea what days I will be av= ailable.  So that makes it at least two less C rides (which there se= ems very few of lately but that is another problem) in the month of June.=
 
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From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 13:06:44 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Mike Devuono) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:06:44 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] maybe Message-ID: Not much of a race....as most racers kinda boycott Major League Cycling events, as the promoter is strictly out to make a buck. Cheap payouts, pay to park, and pay to spectate around the finish line. >>> petelav@comcast.net 05/13/04 05:22AM >>> http://www.majorleaguecycling.com/Union%20Grove%20Road%20Race.htm http://www.majorleaguecycling.com/events.htm I guess someone is asking about a road race that they hear is supposed to take place this weekend in Lancaster County. Shirk's is a bike shop in Lancaster. Regards, Pete -----Original Message----- From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On Behalf Of Bycycle971@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:44 PM To: list@dvbc.org Subject: [DVBC] maybe A bike race up hear on saturday sources say if anyone has seen those arrows up birdell and other roads. Shirks had fliers this person said this maybe false not sure can anyone find out let the race fans know on the list serve. From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 15:13:21 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Homan, Walter C.) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:13:21 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Spotted: Message-ID: <303AEA1D4EB56A4F9DEC98E330625B8E015F7A95@wil-mail-01.wtcnt.wtc.com> Syrah & shiraz is my latest vin rouge for weekend guzzling. Guess I'm more of a Cru Proletariat type. However, the pinot noir I had at a restaurant in Burgundy might have been the finest wine I EVER consumed. -----Original Message----- I'm more of a cabernet man myself.... Investment products are not insured by the FDIC or any other governmental agency, are not deposits of or other obligations of or guaranteed by Wilmington Trust or any other bank or entity, and are subject to risks, including a possible loss of the principal amount invested. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity who is the intended recipient. Unauthorized use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender by replying to this message and delete this material from any system it may be on. From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 17:48:38 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 16:48:38 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Folate & B vitamins Message-ID: <051320041648.28428.40A3A6E60008BE2200006F0C2200745672CCC0CFC7CE0B0A0A9F9C0A9B0704@comcast.net> I'm sure most of us have read about the links between cycling and osteoporosis recently. According to an article in the Philly Inquirer today (from the A.P.), Folate and other B vitamins may reduce the risk of broken bones from osteoporosis, along with their other benefits. From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 18:44:16 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (SteveT) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:44:16 GMT Subject: [DVBC] Spotted: Message-ID: <20040513.104427.7440.226228@webmail13.lax.untd.com> I remember some great cold draft beers at Brownie's, 29th and Girard. Probably the best I ever consumed. The secret was, same day delivery from Schmidt's brewery. Guess I'm more of a CRUDE Proletariat, North Philly variety. -- "Homan, Walter C." wrote: Syrah & shiraz is my latest vin rouge for weekend guzzling. Guess I'm more of a Cru Proletariat type. However, the pinot noir I had at a restaurant in Burgundy might have been the finest wine I EVER consumed. -----Original Message----- I'm more of a cabernet man myself.... ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From list@dvbc.org Thu May 13 19:56:07 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Trout) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:56:07 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Spotted: References: <20040513.104427.7440.226228@webmail13.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <008901c4391b$f3275d40$2ac0c0c0@DTROUT> Steve T. a CRUDE Proletariat? NEVER! He was never a proletariat - crude yes. Wasn't Proletariat a triple crown winner? Dave T. ><((((º>.·´¯`·.¸¸.·><((((º>.·´¯`·.¸¸.·><((((º> ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveT" To: Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:44 PM Subject: RE: [DVBC] Spotted: > > > I remember some great cold draft beers at Brownie's, 29th and Girard. Probably the best I ever consumed. The secret was, same day delivery from Schmidt's brewery. Guess I'm more of a CRUDE Proletariat, North Philly variety. > > > -- "Homan, Walter C." wrote: > Syrah & shiraz is my latest vin rouge for weekend guzzling. Guess I'm > more of a Cru Proletariat type. > > However, the pinot noir I had at a restaurant in Burgundy might have > been the finest wine I EVER consumed. > > -----Original Message----- > I'm more of a cabernet man myself.... > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > _______________________________________________ > DVBC mailing list > DVBC@list.dvbc.org > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc > > From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 02:32:02 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 01:32:02 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Washington, D.C. trip Message-ID: <051420040132.17402.40A42191000DC402000043FA2160280741FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> The Bonkers Metric. Hunter Mountain. Woody's 200-Mile Challenge. The Nova Scotia trip. And don't forget the U.S. Pro Cycling Championship. The cycling season is in full swing, and it's time to add another event to the calendar. Each year, a stalwart group of DVBCers, lead by the ever-wise but "computer-challenged" Bob Martin, dust off their touring bikes and panniers and embark on a 5-day trip to Washington, D.C. And this year is no exception. The trip consists of 2 days cycling (Friday and Saturday), one day of sightseeing in our nation's capital, and 2 days for the return trip. The group will be kept at a manageable 8 participants and will cover between 65 and 75 miles each day, but the pace will include lunch and "comfort" stops and the occasional photo op. You'll also visit the Inner Harbor in Baltimore and the College Park Bicycle Shop, which Bob promises has more cycling "eye candy" than you've seen in a while. Accommodations are made in advance, and Bob promises some new roads await discovery. The tentative start date for this year's event is July 9th, but Bob would like to hear from you before finalizing the date. If you're interested, please contact Bob at 610-352-2114. Thank you! Dominick From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 03:19:31 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Ellen Refused) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 02:19:31 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Bag balm Message-ID:

Hi everyone,

Bag Balm is also used on horses so you can easily find it at a tack shop.

Ellen


Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 03:32:41 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Douglas Bower) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:32:41 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Washington, D.C. trip In-Reply-To: <051420040132.17402.40A42191000DC402000043FA2160280741FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> Message-ID: <000601c4395b$c07b74e0$cbb85144@myyhsl5zw1msn2> Dom, I would like to ride the third annual "DVBC ride to DC" but the Nova Scotia trip, which I am riding, is booked for July 10th through the 17th. The DC trip is so much fun, I don't want to miss it this year. Do you think Bob will consider a later date? Thanks, Doug Much fun -----Original Message----- From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On Behalf Of domzuppo@att.net Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:32 PM To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org Subject: [DVBC] Washington, D.C. trip The Bonkers Metric. Hunter Mountain. Woody's 200-Mile Challenge. The Nova Scotia trip. And don't forget the U.S. Pro Cycling Championship. The cycling season is in full swing, and it's time to add another event to the calendar. Each year, a stalwart group of DVBCers, lead by the ever-wise but "computer-challenged" Bob Martin, dust off their touring bikes and panniers and embark on a 5-day trip to Washington, D.C. And this year is no exception. The trip consists of 2 days cycling (Friday and Saturday), one day of sightseeing in our nation's capital, and 2 days for the return trip. The group will be kept at a manageable 8 participants and will cover between 65 and 75 miles each day, but the pace will include lunch and "comfort" stops and the occasional photo op. You'll also visit the Inner Harbor in Baltimore and the College Park Bicycle Shop, which Bob promises has more cycling "eye candy" than you've seen in a while. Accommodations are made in advance, and Bob promises some new roads await discovery. The tentative start date for this year's event is July 9th, but Bob would like to hear from you before finalizing the date. If you're interested, please contact Bob at 610-352-2114. Thank you! Dominick _______________________________________________ DVBC mailing list DVBC@list.dvbc.org http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 03:32:41 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Douglas Bower) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:32:41 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Washington, D.C. trip In-Reply-To: <051420040132.17402.40A42191000DC402000043FA2160280741FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> Message-ID: <000601c4395b$c07b74e0$cbb85144@myyhsl5zw1msn2> Dom, I would like to ride the third annual "DVBC ride to DC" but the Nova Scotia trip, which I am riding, is booked for July 10th through the 17th. The DC trip is so much fun, I don't want to miss it this year. Do you think Bob will consider a later date? Thanks, Doug Much fun -----Original Message----- From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On Behalf Of domzuppo@att.net Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:32 PM To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org Subject: [DVBC] Washington, D.C. trip The Bonkers Metric. Hunter Mountain. Woody's 200-Mile Challenge. The Nova Scotia trip. And don't forget the U.S. Pro Cycling Championship. The cycling season is in full swing, and it's time to add another event to the calendar. Each year, a stalwart group of DVBCers, lead by the ever-wise but "computer-challenged" Bob Martin, dust off their touring bikes and panniers and embark on a 5-day trip to Washington, D.C. And this year is no exception. The trip consists of 2 days cycling (Friday and Saturday), one day of sightseeing in our nation's capital, and 2 days for the return trip. The group will be kept at a manageable 8 participants and will cover between 65 and 75 miles each day, but the pace will include lunch and "comfort" stops and the occasional photo op. You'll also visit the Inner Harbor in Baltimore and the College Park Bicycle Shop, which Bob promises has more cycling "eye candy" than you've seen in a while. Accommodations are made in advance, and Bob promises some new roads await discovery. The tentative start date for this year's event is July 9th, but Bob would like to hear from you before finalizing the date. If you're interested, please contact Bob at 610-352-2114. Thank you! Dominick _______________________________________________ DVBC mailing list DVBC@list.dvbc.org http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc From list@dvbc.org Wed May 12 14:07:36 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (John Boyle) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:07:36 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] News from the Bicycle Coalition Message-ID: <200405121307.i4CD7hH6023543@smtp-dtc08.proxy.aol.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C43800.92296B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellow Cyclists The current edition of the Bicycle Coalition's newsletter "Cyclegram" is now posted online at www.bicyclecoalition.org (PDF version - http://www.bicyclecoalition.org/may-cyclegram.pdf). This edition includes 3 action alerts and includes a report from the Delaware County Committee. BCGP members should be getting a hard copy of the "Cyclegram" next week. Bike on Bus Blitz - May 18 69th St Terminal 9am Please help show SEPTA that bikes on buses are important. Our goal is to put a bike on every bus bike rack coming in and out of the terminal. Show up at 9am at the western terminal (bus stops across from the Sharon Hill/Media trolleys) for outbound trips on SEPTA buses. Better yet take your bike on the 103 , 107 or the 122 bus to 69th St (schedules/maps - www.septa.org ). Bicycle Coalition personnel will be onsite to help those who are unfamiliar with the bus bike racks. Bike on Bus instruction video is online at www.bicyclecoalition.org/transit.htm Tokens will be provided for outbound riders and those who notify us that they will be participating in advance. We encourage everyone who bikes that day to try the SEPTA bike racks, for more info contact us via email or call Alex at the BCGP 215-242-9253 Delaware County Bike to Work Day Media - Friday May 21 starts at 7:30am Government Complex The Bike to Work Days webpage http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/planning/BW_moreinfo.html includes info about discounts and rides And don't forget if you bike to work anytime during bike week you are eligible for raffle http://www2.co.delaware.pa.us/biketowork/biketowork.asp Freedom Valley Bike Ride - Saturday June 19. New this year will be a 22 mile up and back on the Schuylkill River Trail and a 100 mile option to the Sheeder Covered Bridge in Chester County. Register online at http://www.bicyclecoalition.org/freedom_valley_ride.html Trail Construction contract's let or under construction: Radnor trail) - Radnor Chester Road to Sugartown Rd, November completion Cobbs Creek Bikeway- (Philadelphia side) Market St to the Darby Bridge (Woodland Ave), Construction to start in the summer John Boyle john@bicyclecoalition.org ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C43800.92296B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Fellow Cyclists

 

The current edition of the = Bicycle Coalition’s newsletter “Cyclegram” is now posted = online at www.bicyclecoalition.org (PDF version - http://www.bicyclecoalition.org/may-cyclegram.pdf). This = edition includes 3 action alerts and includes a report from the Delaware County = Committee. BCGP members should be getting a hard copy of the = “Cyclegram” next week.

 

 

Bike on Bus Blitz – May 18 69th St Terminal = 9am

 

Please help show SEPTA that bikes on buses are = important. Our goal is to put a bike on every bus bike rack coming in and out of = the terminal.

 

Show up at 9am at the western terminal (bus stops = across from the Sharon Hill/Media trolleys) for outbound trips on SEPTA buses. =

Better yet take your bike on the 103, 107 or the 122 bus to 69th St (schedules/maps - www.septa.org ).

 

Bicycle Coalition personnel will be onsite to help = those who are unfamiliar with the bus bike racks. Bike on Bus instruction video is = online at www.bicyclecoalitio= n.org/transit.htm  Tokens will be provided = for outbound riders and those who notify us that they will be participating = in advance.

 

We encourage everyone who = bikes that day to try the SEPTA bike racks, for more info contact us via email or call Alex at the BCGP 215-242-9253

 

 

Delaware County Bike to Work Day Media – Friday = May 21 starts at 7:30am Government Complex

The Bike to Work Days webpage http://ww= w.co.delaware.pa.us/planning/BW_moreinfo.html includes info about discounts and rides

 

And don’t forget if you bike to work anytime = during bike week you are eligible for raffle = http://www2.co.delaware.pa.us/biketowork/biketowork.asp=

 

 

Freedom Valley Bike Ride - Saturday June 19. New this = year will be a 22 mile up and back on the Schuylkill River Trail and a 100 = mile option to the Sheeder Covered Bridge in Chester County. Register online = at http:/= /www.bicyclecoalition.org/freedom_valley_ride.html<= /font>

 

 

Trail Construction contract’s let or under construction:

Radnor trail) - Radnor Chester Road to Sugartown Rd, November completion

Cobbs Creek Bikeway– (Philadelphia side) Market = St to the Darby Bridge (Woodland Ave), Construction to start in the = summer

 

 

John Boyle

john@bicyclecoalition.org

=
------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C43800.92296B80-- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 14:59:06 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:59:06 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Washington, D.C. trip Message-ID: -------------------------------1084543146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dom, Would like to join you, but I'm kinda booked already between Hunter Mountain and Nova Scotia. Maybe next year. I'm sure you will have a wonderful ride. It sounds like a lot of fun. Ed Becker -------------------------------1084543146 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dom,
 
    Would like to join you, but I'm kinda booked already= between Hunter Mountain and Nova Scotia. Maybe next year. I'm sure you will= have a wonderful ride. It sounds like a lot of fun.
 
 
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-------------------------------1084543146-- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 20:08:28 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Pete LaVerghetta) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:08:28 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Ride of Silence May 19th Message-ID: <000201c439e6$d7947ab0$8be85044@DD0LV321> There are going to be slow rides (12mph max) in cities across the country May 19th at 7pm to honor those injured or killed on our nation's roads. See http://www.rideofsilence.org/main.php for locations near you. No registration, no fee, no t-shirt. Just remembrance. No ride listed for this area (yet). Regards, Pete From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 20:30:58 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Alex Doty) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:30:58 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Bicycle Coalition CycleGram Online Message-ID: <200405141928.i4EJSu001082@adobe.propagation.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C439C8.75680410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The May CycleGram is now online at http://www.bicyclecoalition.org/cyclegram-may.htm Please take a moment to send one of our email action alerts to SEPTA, NJ Transit and Philadelphia Managing Director Phil Goldsmith at http://www.bicyclecoalition.org/action-email.htm While you're surfing, don't forget to register for the 25th Annual Freedom Valley Bike Ride before June 1st at http://active.com/event_detail.cfm?event_id=1123511 Alex Doty Acting Executive Director Bicycle Coalition of Greater Philadelphia 100 S Broad St Suite 1355 Philadelphia, PA 19110 215 BICYCLE Register for the Freedom Valley Bike Ride on 6/19/04 at http://bicyclecoalition.org. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C439C8.75680410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The May CycleGram is now online at = http://www.bicyclecoalition.org/cyclegram-may.htm

 

Please take a moment to send one of our email action = alerts to SEPTA, NJ Transit and Philadelphia Managing Director Phil Goldsmith at = http://www.bicyclecoalition.org/action-email.htm=

 

While you’re surfing, don’t forget to = register for the 25th Annual Freedom Valley Bike Ride before June = 1st at = http://active.com/event_detail.cfm?event_id=3D1123511

 

Alex Doty

Acting Executive Director

Bicycle Coalition of Greater Philadelphia

100 S Broad St Suite 1355

Philadelphia, PA 19110

215 BICYCLE

 

=

Register for the Freedom Valley Bike Ride on = 6/19/04 at http://bicyclecoalition.org.

 

------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C439C8.75680410-- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 21:35:56 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:35:56 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] to all Bonkers volunteers Message-ID: <002301c439f3$0f8495c0$0a00010a@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C439D1.87E50DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Bonkers volunteers.=20 Thanks so much for being willing to give up your Sunday to help make = our tour a success.=20 SAG drivers and parking lot attendants should arrive around 7 am. = The riders start to come that early and SAG drivers could, if willing, = help get people parked.=20 Certainly, registration workers need to arrive promptly at seven = (when the park opens) because people are eager to give us their money.=20 Food stop workers ought to get to the park between 7:30 and 8:00. We = are asking you to come to the park first, if it is not out of your way, = so you can carry food or equipment down to Cheyney. Some foodstop = volunteers are bringing kids and that is fine because there is plenty of = room for them to run around without breaking anything. We suggest that = workers bring comfortable lawn chairs because all work and no lounging = make Jack a dull boy.=20 =20 The ride for Bonkers volunteers is tomorrow (Saturday) at 9:00 am. = We can accommodate A, B, or C riders and you have your choice of = distance. This is our day to have fun together. We hope you can make it. = --Bob LaDrew ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C439D1.87E50DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hello Bonkers = volunteers.=20
    Thanks so much for = being willing=20 to give up your Sunday to help make our tour a success.
    SAG drivers and = parking lot=20 attendants should arrive around 7 am. The riders start to come that = early=20 and SAG drivers could, if willing, help get people parked.
    Certainly, = registration workers=20 need to arrive promptly at seven (when the park opens) because people = are eager=20 to give us their money.
    Food stop workers = ought to get=20 to the park between 7:30 and 8:00. We are asking you to come to the = park=20 first, if it is not out of your way, so you can carry food or equipment = down to=20 Cheyney. Some foodstop volunteers are bringing kids and that is fine = because=20 there is plenty of room for them to run around without breaking = anything. We=20 suggest that workers bring comfortable lawn chairs because all work and = no=20 lounging make Jack a dull boy.
   
    The ride for Bonkers = volunteers=20 is tomorrow (Saturday) at 9:00 am. We can accommodate A, B, or C riders = and you=20 have your choice of distance. This is our day to have fun together. We = hope you=20 can make it.
    --Bob=20 LaDrew
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C439D1.87E50DA0-- From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 22:27:03 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:27:03 EDT Subject: [DVBC] May Ride Message-ID: <81.be8b492.2dd693a7@cs.com> --part1_81.be8b492.2dd693a7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Despite submitting the information, my May ride did not get into the newsletter and is not listed on the website. Since it is in the May Tailwind (White Clay Bicycle Club) I am committed to leading this ride. Sunday, May 23, 9:00 am Miles: 74 Class B+/A- Tri - State Journey Meet at Westtown-Thornbury Elementary School on Westbourne Rd. (the bridge is still out on 926). Ride scenic roads in PA, DE, and MD. There is a Criterium race in Elkton MD and we may be able watch some racing during our stop. Our final average should be about 17 mph. Glenn Lyons 610-399-0624 or rollingspeed@cs.com --part1_81.be8b492.2dd693a7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Despite submitting the information,= my May ride did not get into the newsletter and is not listed on the websit= e.  Since it is in the May Tailwind (White Clay Bicycle Club) I am comm= itted to leading this ride.

Sunday, May 23, 9:00 am
Miles:  74  Class B+/A-
Tri - State Journey

Meet at Westtown-Thornbury Elementary School on Westbourne Rd. (the bridge i= s still out on 926).  Ride scenic roads in PA, DE, and MD.  There=20= is a Criterium race in Elkton MD and we may be able watch some racing during= our stop.  Our final average should be about 17 mph.  Glenn Lyons= 610-399-0624 or rollingspeed@cs.com

 --part1_81.be8b492.2dd693a7_boundary-- From list@dvbc.org Sat May 15 00:48:22 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:48:22 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] May Ride In-Reply-To: <81.be8b492.2dd693a7@cs.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040514194804.03d7d5b0@pop3.craftech.com> Sorry about that. It's in there now. Tony At 05:27 PM 5/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Despite submitting the information, my May ride did not get into the >newsletter and is not listed on the website. Since it is in the May >Tailwind (White Clay Bicycle Club) I am committed to leading this ride. > >Sunday, May 23, 9:00 am >Miles: 74 Class B+/A- >Tri - State Journey > >Meet at Westtown-Thornbury Elementary School on Westbourne Rd. (the bridge >is still out on 926). Ride scenic roads in PA, DE, and MD. There is a >Criterium race in Elkton MD and we may be able watch some racing during >our stop. Our final average should be about 17 mph. Glenn Lyons >610-399-0624 or rollingspeed@cs.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 Craftech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com ------------------------------------------------------------ From list@dvbc.org Fri May 14 17:06:47 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:06:47 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Question Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-6cf7cd55-cc12-4dc0-b532-27baaaee80b5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0058830485256E94_=" --=_alternative 0058830485256E94_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Is there any way to get a club T-shirt and/or club jersey prior to Sunday's Bonker's Metric. I haven't gotten around to ordering both and would like to display club colors on Sunday where I'll be voluneering. --=_alternative 0058830485256E94_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Is there any way to get a club T-shirt and/or club jersey prior to Sunday's Bonker's Metric.  I haven't gotten around to ordering both and would like to display club colors on Sunday where I'll be voluneering.   --=_alternative 0058830485256E94_=-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-6cf7cd55-cc12-4dc0-b532-27baaaee80b5-- From list@dvbc.org Sat May 15 05:23:05 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 00:23:05 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Question References: Message-ID: <006e01c43a34$51f026e0$37456acf@home> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C43A12.CA413570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We usually sell them at registration. So you could get one there. Ira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JPattalino@EvergreenInvestments.com=20 To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: [DVBC] Question Is there any way to get a club T-shirt and/or club jersey prior to = Sunday's Bonker's Metric. I haven't gotten around to ordering both and = would like to display club colors on Sunday where I'll be voluneering. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C43A12.CA413570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We usually sell them at registration. = So you could=20 get one there.
Ira
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From:=20 JPattalino@EvergreenI= nvestments.com=20
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 = 12:06 PM
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Is there any way = to get a club=20 T-shirt and/or club jersey prior to Sunday's Bonker's Metric.  I = haven't=20 gotten around to ordering both and would like to display club colors = on Sunday=20 where I'll be voluneering.   ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C43A12.CA413570-- From list@dvbc.org Sat May 15 15:08:12 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (SteveT) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:08:12 GMT Subject: [DVBC] 2004 Pennsylvania Bicycle Rally Message-ID: <20040515.070817.21371.252608@webmail21.lax.untd.com> Friends, this post may be of interest to you and other cyclists in our area. Pass it on. I had a great time at last year's rally and am planning to bike to the event this year. SteveT -----Original Message----- From: ED@bicycleaccess-pa.org [mailto:ED@bicycleaccess-pa.org] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 8:55 PM To: pabycycle@earthlink.net Subject: 2004 Pennsylvania Bicycle Rally Importance: High Please list the following info regarding the upcoming Pennsylvania Bicycle Rally in your newsletter, on your website and member e-lists. Many bike club members miss the old weekend GEARs that are no longer scheduled by LAB in the northeast. The Bicycle Access Council has responded to the request for this type of event to benefit Pennsylvanians. Please support the Bicycle Access Council by promoting this event. Joe Stafford, Executive Director Bicycle Access Council Dallastown, PA www.BicycleAccess-PA.org 2004 Pennsylvania Bicycle Rally July 16-18 The Bicycle Access Council invites you to enjoy a weekend rally in Lewisburg, PA. Meet new and old bicycling friends in this rural Susquehanna Valley area. Join us for the rides, the food, the fellowship, the entertainment and the learning opportunities available. Support bicycling advocacy! Proceeds benefit Bicycle Access Council. · Choose from a variety of rides to please all skill levels Terrain is mostly flat to rolling, but some hills are nearby for an optional challenge. Cue sheets and maps are provided. Rides are tandem friendly. This rally has everything a bicyclist could want—rural country roads with well-manicured farms, shady woods and streams. Historic small towns dot the valleys, and the traffic is as friendly as the people you meet. · Lots of good food is provided to keep you going and satisfied All participants will enjoy a catered Saturday picnic lunch and evening banquet. Full breakfasts and Friday night ice cream social are included with rally site and off-site registration. Mark your calendar now! Sponsored by the Bicycle Access Council www.BicycleAccess-PA.org Registration forms and details are available on the website now. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From list@dvbc.org Sat May 15 21:35:40 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:35:40 EDT Subject: [DVBC] todays ride Message-ID: <99.46ff58cd.2dd7d91c@aol.com> -------------------------------1084653340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Wanted to thank Val for a nice ride today. The ride was very well planned out and routed on some very nice roads. She even supplied cue sheets. I even got a chance to ride with the infamous Walter. Ed -------------------------------1084653340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
    Wanted to thank Val for a nice ride today. The ride=20= was very well planned out and routed on some very nice roads. She even suppl= ied cue sheets. I even got a chance to ride with the infamous Walter.
 
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-------------------------------1084653340-- From list@dvbc.org Sat May 15 23:06:55 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Valerie Shinbaum) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:06:55 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] thanks ed Message-ID: Hello all, and thanks Ed, for those kind words. For those of you wondering about riding on route 926 with the bridge still out, not to worry, there are two ways around it. We took the "easier" way today, but I've mapped out another more difficult route as well, for those of you who enjoy the extra challenge. And what a fun moment to pass the bonkers "paint prep road crew," always enjoy those chance encounters! You never know who you'll meet on the road. Valerie _________________________________________________________________ Getting married? Find tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married From list@dvbc.org Sun May 16 11:19:00 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 06:19:00 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] RE: Lance's Chamois Cream In-Reply-To: <1110.207.106.69.28.1084239516.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> References: <050720042348.24766.409C203C000201A8000060BE2200735834FFB4B0ADB8B6AAAD@comcast.net> <000001c4348f$3ab75e80$8be85044@DD0LV321> <1110.207.106.69.28.1084239516.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> Message-ID: <72C9438E-A722-11D8-BE91-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com> Well I know my recommendation won't carry the same weight as Lance's but here goes. I have not used any type of chamois cream in the past. Thinking I will need ever bit of help I can get in June when I plan to try the 200 mile ride I decided to give some a try. During yesterday's volunteer ride I used ButtR chamois cream. I rode the full 64 mile course plus rode to the start and home at the end for a total of 82 miles. My backside has never felt sooooo go. I will be using it regularly going forward :-) ------------------------------------- Dave Hartrum WA3YDZ dhartrum@mac.com dhartrum@comcast.net ------------------------------------- On May 10, 2004, at 9:38 PM, Eric Valencia wrote: > Sage cyclists, > Where can I get this Bag Balm or Udder Butter? > > Eric > > >> Not for human consumption! Seriously, Bag Balm probably comes in five >> gallon pails, way low cost per once, not like the fancy schmancy >> stuff. >> >> See ya, >> Pete >> >> >>> >>> Udder butter, Udderly Moo, and Bag Balm I've seen and used. (first >>> two >>> less greasy) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> DVBC mailing list >> DVBC@list.dvbc.org >> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc > > > > _______________________________________________ > DVBC mailing list > DVBC@list.dvbc.org > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc From list@dvbc.org Sun May 16 20:01:29 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:01:29 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers Message-ID: <6d.29b48d33.2dd91489@aol.com> -------------------------------1084734089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Had a wonderful ride today at the Bonker's. It was so well set up and organized. The food stops were well supplied and it was great to see friends at each stop. By the way Tony your new name is Johan. Thanks for the push. Ended up with 79 miles at a 17.1mph average after doing both challenges. Ed Becker -------------------------------1084734089 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
    Had a wonderful ride today at the Bonker's. It was s= o well set up and organized. The food stops were well supplied and it was gr= eat to see friends at each stop.
 
     By the way Tony your new name is Johan. Thanks= for the push. 
 
    Ended up with 79 miles at a 17.1mph average after do= ing both challenges.
 
 
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-------------------------------1084734089-- From list@dvbc.org Sun May 16 23:21:49 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (David) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:21:49 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Great Bonker's Message-ID: Hello All, I got a chance to ride a little bit of the Bonker's today. Nice little hill challenge at the end. i'm sure that put some hurt into a few riders. Nicely done. Everything was wonderful, the route, the weather, and the the volunteers. I apologize for the green bananas. next year, i'll have yellow for the riders. thanks and congrats to everyone who helped plan and put it on, david cunicelli From list@dvbc.org Mon May 17 00:54:19 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 19:54:19 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Great Bonker's Message-ID: <2b.579b7830.2dd9592b@aol.com> -------------------------------1084751659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The bananas were just right Dave. Thanks for everything and nice seeing you. ED -------------------------------1084751659 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The bananas were just right Dave. Thanks for everything and nice seeing y= ou. ED -------------------------------1084751659-- From list@dvbc.org Mon May 17 01:26:34 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (David) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:26:34 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Dave Hartrum's Chamois Creme Message-ID: After reading about Dave H's happy bum. I'm officially intrigued about this chamois creme. Why does it work? Does it cause a rash or chafing if you use too much? Please those that are enlightened, pass on your wisdom to me and my butt. david c From list@dvbc.org Mon May 17 14:14:26 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (SteveT) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:14:26 GMT Subject: [DVBC] Great Bonker's Message-ID: <20040517.061451.3055.268379@webmail22.lax.untd.com> Ditto for me. Thank you, to all the folks who gave up their ride to help make it happen. It was great to see the sag support just about everywhere. I missed seeing Bob LaDrew (must have been yellow school busing) but his lovely wife Babbs ..er Judy took his place as a host at the Chaney rest stop. It was good to see Dave Trout entertaining (?) all with his weird ...er..wry sense of humor (??) The ride and the bananas were just fine. SteveT -- David wrote: Everything was wonderful, the route, the weather, and the the volunteers. I apologize for the green bananas. next year, i'll have yellow for the riders. thanks and congrats to everyone who helped plan and put it on, david cunicelli ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From list@dvbc.org Mon May 17 16:23:45 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Larry Green) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:23:45 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers review Message-ID: <40A8D901.9040305@earthlink.net> Thanks to the parking crew for making arrival smooth, efficient and fun. I also rode the 35 with a friend who was one of the last registrants, to close the parking duties. Great route, markings, support, muffins, brownies and a break with the weather. It was good to see Bob Leon there checking things out and supporting us all. Larry/Doc From list@dvbc.org Mon May 17 17:44:40 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:44:40 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Fw: the bonkers Message-ID: <001d01c43c2e$f98c4c20$0a00010a@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C43C0C.B8864D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marsha Hyman=20 To: info@dvbc.org=20 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: the bonkers I just wanted to congratulate you on a job well done. It was the first = time I have ever done the bonkers and it was very well marked and the = rest area was very well stocked (even if they did run out of wheat bread = :) ). I did the 50 mile and had a great time. Thanks Marsha=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C43C0C.B8864D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marsha=20 Hyman
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 5:48 PM
Subject: the bonkers

I just wanted to congratulate you on a = job well=20 done.  It was the first time I have ever done = the bonkers and it=20 was very well marked and the rest area was very well stocked (even if = they=20 did run out of wheat bread :) ).  I did the 50 mile and had a = great=20 time.  Thanks
Marsha
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C43C0C.B8864D60-- From list@dvbc.org Mon May 17 22:34:16 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:34:16 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Dave Hartrum's Chamois Creme Message-ID: <8a.b2a3253.2dda89d8@aol.com> --part1_8a.b2a3253.2dda89d8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's just slippery enough with your body heat to prevent abraision and saddle sores on our most tender parts. Also some brands have antibacterial properites. jill --part1_8a.b2a3253.2dda89d8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's just slippery enough with your= body heat to prevent abraision and saddle sores on our most tender parts.&n= bsp; Also some brands have antibacterial properites.

jill --part1_8a.b2a3253.2dda89d8_boundary-- From list@dvbc.org Mon May 17 22:44:35 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:44:35 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers Message-ID: <8.4d4685d9.2dda8c43@aol.com> --part1_8.4d4685d9.2dda8c43_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all who made this a terriffic ride. I met new friends and old, we had great weather and an excellent route. Thanks to Tony for keeping us on the straight and narrow at the 5 points intersection, and to Frank for going out to look for Pat. It all turned out well. jill --part1_8.4d4685d9.2dda8c43_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all who made this a terri= ffic ride.  I met new friends and old, we had great weather and an exce= llent route.  Thanks to Tony for keeping us on the straight and narrow=20= at the 5 points intersection, and to Frank for going out to look for Pat.&nb= sp; It all turned out well.

jill --part1_8.4d4685d9.2dda8c43_boundary-- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 18 02:56:48 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 01:56:48 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] Bike to Work Week Chronicles - Day 1 Message-ID: <051820040156.7106.40A96D5F00063C9600001BC22160376316FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> 5 AM - @#$%& - Overslept. Too stoked about Bonkers Metric, stayed up late talking with club member about tour, summer plans, Lake Nockamixon. Where are my socks? Cool morning, too cloudy for dark lenses. Light traffic - the best. Can smell honeysuckle. Hooked up with fellow co-worker, wants to ride more, set ACS Bike-a-thon training schedule for Team IKON. 5 PM - Thunderheads moving in. Might get chance to try new O2 rain jacket. Dread climbing Cedar Hollow Road cold. Fun holding up traffic over Paoli train station bridge - who said to be aggressive? Climbing West Chester Pike to Broomall. Car stalled in left hand lane, accident waiting to happen. Dismount, signal traffic to stop while young driver and I push car to shoulder. Drivers won't give us a minute - typical. Car safe, back on bike, calves don't feel so good. Pass O'Hara HS. Stop to pick up fallen American flag; it's torn. Symbolic? Pass Swarthmore College, all's quiet. Good first day, looking forward to rest of the week. From list@dvbc.org Tue May 18 03:36:49 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:36:49 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Bike to Work Week Chronicles - Day 1 References: <051820040156.7106.40A96D5F00063C9600001BC22160376316FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> Message-ID: <00af01c43c83$df8627b0$0100007f@home> Way to go Dom. Ira ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: [DVBC] Bike to Work Week Chronicles - Day 1 > 5 AM - @#$%& - Overslept. Too stoked about Bonkers Metric, stayed up late talking with club member about tour, summer plans, Lake Nockamixon. Where are my socks? > > Cool morning, too cloudy for dark lenses. Light traffic - the best. Can smell honeysuckle. Hooked up with fellow co-worker, wants to ride more, set ACS Bike-a-thon training schedule for Team IKON. > > 5 PM - Thunderheads moving in. Might get chance to try new O2 rain jacket. Dread climbing Cedar Hollow Road cold. Fun holding up traffic over Paoli train station bridge - who said to be aggressive? > > Climbing West Chester Pike to Broomall. Car stalled in left hand lane, accident waiting to happen. Dismount, signal traffic to stop while young driver and I push car to shoulder. Drivers won't give us a minute - typical. Car safe, back on bike, calves don't feel so good. > > Pass O'Hara HS. Stop to pick up fallen American flag; it's torn. Symbolic? Pass Swarthmore College, all's quiet. Good first day, looking forward to rest of the week. > _______________________________________________ > DVBC mailing list > DVBC@list.dvbc.org > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc > > From list@dvbc.org Tue May 18 13:10:25 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:10:25 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Bike to Work Week Chronicles - Day 1 Message-ID: <1d5.2193dc99.2ddb5731@aol.com> -------------------------------1084882225 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congratulations Dom on day 1. I found that there is a never dull moment especially while biking to work in the morning. I bet it felt so good when you got to work. I rode in today to and found the weather and scenery quite breathtaking. ED -------------------------------1084882225 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations Dom on day 1. I found that there is a never dull moment= especially while biking to work in the morning. I bet it felt so good when=20= you got to work. I rode in today to and found the weather and scenery quite=20= breathtaking.
 
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-------------------------------1084882225-- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 18 17:08:32 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:08:32 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040518120618.02cec610@pop3.craftech.com> Have you guys visited the web site for some nice pictures from the Bonkers Tour? Thanks Ed S, for all those wonderful pictures. You have been nominated as the official DVBC tours photographer. Check it out.... http://www.dvbc.org Tony ----------------------------------------------- Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980 CrafTech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com ----------------------------------------------- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 18 21:24:34 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:24:34 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers Message-ID: <1ed.20e3fffc.2ddbcb02@aol.com> -------------------------------1084911874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes indeed. Thank You Ed S., the pics are awesome, and thanks Tony for posting them so quickly. ED -------------------------------1084911874 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes indeed. Thank You Ed S., the pics are awesome, and thanks Tony for po= sting them so quickly. ED -------------------------------1084911874-- From list@dvbc.org Tue May 18 21:59:05 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:59:05 EDT Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers pic Message-ID: <53.c20edef.2ddbd319@aol.com> -------------------------------1084913945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed S. is so fast that he is able to take a picture of himself. -------------------------------1084913945 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed S. is so fast that he is able to take a picture of himself. -------------------------------1084913945-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 19 01:19:25 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Frank Jackson) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:19:25 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers Message-ID: Jill Thanks for the mention. I had to find her, we're co-leading a ride next month. Hope to see you and Paul on that ride. Also I went to high school with her husband. We actually hung on the same corners. Yes Dave I went to high school (and beyond).lol Frank >From: JillOnBike@aol.com >Reply-To: list@dvbc.org >To: list@dvbc.org >Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:44:35 EDT > >Thanks to all who made this a terriffic ride. I met new friends and old, >we >had great weather and an excellent route. Thanks to Tony for keeping us on >the straight and narrow at the 5 points intersection, and to Frank for >going out >to look for Pat. It all turned out well. > >jill _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ From list@dvbc.org Wed May 19 02:30:11 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 01:30:11 +0000 Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 2 Message-ID: <051920040130.1943.40AAB8A20008F05F000007972158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> 6 AM - Woke up on time. Out the door, away we go. Half a sunglass, a dozen unopened lemonade bottles, and something electronic; the random detritus of human existence. Young lady crossing West Chester Pike near Acme - what was that tat? Ride in only took an hour and 8 minutes. Leg cramped up during department meeting, scared coworkers - darn South Beach diet. Hope OJ and pretzels help. 4:30 PM - Weather good, no rain yet. Stopped at Performance - XT crank set is so sweet. Wet roads in Newtown Square and Broomall, must have missed the rain. Trued rear rim brakes strong - thanks Bob Martin. Stopped by Bob Leon's - looking stronger every day. No problem with leg. Thanks, Ira and Ed B for the support. Total miles to date, 70. From list@dvbc.org Wed May 19 02:39:42 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:39:42 EDT Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 2 Message-ID: <8d.b4c01d9.2ddc14de@aol.com> -------------------------------1084930781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dom, You did miss the rain, but I got it and got it hard. Fortunately I was just rounding the corner at Valley View and Media Line so I stopped at the High School awning to put on my rain jacket. I figured out real quick how nice those fenders really are and appreciate them very much. I think a lot of drivers had to give me a second look though because I was still enjoying my ride and had a big smile on my face. ED -------------------------------1084930781 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dom,
 
    You did miss the rain, but I got it and got it hard.= Fortunately I was just rounding the corner at Valley View and Media Line so= I stopped at the High School awning to put on my rain jacket. I figured out= real quick how nice those fenders really are and appreciate them very much.=
 
    I think a lot of drivers had to give me a second loo= k though because I was still enjoying my ride and had a big smile on my face= .
 
              &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;               &n= bsp;     ED 
-------------------------------1084930781-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 19 12:31:42 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:31:42 EDT Subject: [DVBC] OT: a wonderful list, a wonderful essay Message-ID: <1eb.20bda699.2ddc9f9e@aol.com> --part1_1eb.20bda699.2ddc9f9e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for those not on my daily joke list, and who may have the time and inclination, i'm thinking you might enjoy these: The Rules for Being Human 1. You will receive a body. You may like it or hate it, but it will be yours for the entire period. 2. You will learn lessons. You are enrolled in an informal school called Life. Each day in this school, you will have the opportunity to learn lessons. You may like the lessons or think them irrelevant and stupid. 3. There are no mistakes, only lessons. Growth is a process of trial and error. Experimentation. The "failed" experiments are as much a part of the process as the experiment that ultimately "works". 4. A lesson is repeated until learned. A lesson will be presented to you in various forms until you have learned it. You can then go on to the next lesson. 5. Learning lessons does not end. There is no part of life that does not contain its lessons. If you are alive, there are lessons to be learned. 6. "There" is no better than "here." When your "there" has become a "here," you will simply obtain another "there" that will again look better than "here." 7. Others are merely mirrors of you. You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you either love or hate about yourself. 8. What you make of your life is up to you. You have all the tools and resources you need. What you do with them is up to you. The choice is yours. 9. Your answers lie inside you. The answers to Life's questions lie inside you. All you need to do is look, listen and trust. 10. You will forget all this. ~by Cherie Carter-Scott~ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Importance of Time A young man learns what's most important in life from the guy next door. It had been some time since Jack had seen the old man. College, girls, career,and life itself got in the way. In fact, Jack moved clear across the country in pursuit of his dreams. There, in the rush of his busy life, Jack had little time to think about the past and often no time to spend with his wife and son. He was working on his future, and nothing could stop him. Over the phone, his mother told him, "Mr.. Belser died last night. The funeral is Wednesday." Memories flashed through his mind like an old newsreel as he sat quietly remembering his childhood days. "Jack, did you hear me?" "Oh, sorry, Mom. Yes, I heard you . It's been so long since I thought of him. I'm sorry, but I honestly thought he died years ago," Jack said. "Well, he didn't forget you. Every time I saw him he'd ask how you were doing. He'd reminisce about the many days you spent over 'his side of the fence' as he put it," Mom told him. "I loved that old house he lived in," Jack said. "You know, Jack, after your father died, Mr. Belser stepped in to make sure you had a man's influence in your life," she said. "He's the one who taught me carpentry," he said. "I wouldn't be in this business if it weren't for him. He spent a lot of time teaching me things he thought were important...Mom, I'll be there for the funeral," Jack said. As busy as he was, he kept his word. Jack caught the next flight to his hometown. Mr. Belser's funeral was small and uneventful. He had no children of his own, and most of his relatives had passed away. The night before he had to return home, Jack and his Mom stopped by to see the old house next door one more time. Standing in the doorway, Jack paused for a moment. It was like crossing over into another dimension, a leap through space and time. The house was exactly as he remembered. Every step held memories. Every picture, every piece of furniture....Jack stopped suddenly. "What's wrong, Jack?" his Mom asked. "The box is gone," he said. "What box? " Mom asked. "There was a small gold box that he kept locked on top of his desk. I must have asked him a thousand times what was inside. All he'd ever tell me was the thing I value most,'" Jack said. It was gone. Everything about the house was exactly how Jack remembered it,except for the box. He figured someone from the Belser family had taken it. "Now I'll never know what was so valuable to him," Jack said. "I better get some sleep. I have an early flight home, Mom." It had been about two weeks since Mr. Belser died. Returning home from work one day Jack discovered a note in his mailbox. "Signature required on apackage. No one at home. Please stop by the main post office within the next three days," the note read. Early the next day Jack retrieved the package. The small box was old and looked like it had been mailed a hundred years ago. The handwriting was difficult to read, but the return address caught his attention. "Mr. Harold Belser" it read. Jack took the box out to his car and ripped open the package. There inside was the gold box and an envelope. Jack's hands shook as he read the note inside. "Upon my death, please forward this box and its contents to Jack Bennett. It's the thing I valued most in my life." A small key was taped to the letter. His heart racing, as tears filling his eyes, Jack carefully unlocked the box. There inside he found a beautiful gold pocket watch. Running his fingers slowly over the finely etched casing, he unlatched the cover. Inside he found these words engraved: "Jack, Thanks for your time! -Harold Belser." "The thing he valued most...was...my time." Jack held the watch for a few minutes, then called his office and cleared his appointments for the next two days. "Why?" Janet, his assistant asked. "I need some time to spend with my son," he said. "Oh, by the way, Janet...thanks for your time!" *********************************************************** ***** joel perlish, joel perlish photography ***** "anything you can picture" 401 colfax road, havertown,pa 19083-1314 joelperlish@aol.com * joelperlish@mac.com * web: www.joelperlish.com (the hawaii biking story in words & pictures: joelperlish.blogspot.com) dial 610-789-POSE(7673)* 800-718-PHOTOS * fax: 610-789-1095 ******************************************************************** --part1_1eb.20bda699.2ddc9f9e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable for those not on my daily joke list, an= d who may have the time and inclination, i'm thinking you might enjoy these:=

The Rules for Being Human
1. You will receive a body. You may like it or hate it, but it will be yours= for the entire period.

2. You will learn lessons. You are enrolled in an informal school called Lif= e. Each day in this school, you will have the opportunity to learn lessons.=20= You may like the lessons or think them irrelevant and stupid.

3. There are no mistakes, only lessons. Growth is a process of trial and err= or. Experimentation. The "failed" experiments are as much a part of the proc= ess as the experiment that ultimately "works".

4. A lesson is repeated until learned. A lesson will be presented to you in=20= various forms until you have learned it. You can then go on to the next less= on.

5. Learning lessons does not end. There is no part of life that does not con= tain its lessons. If you are alive, there are lessons to be learned.

6. "There" is no better than "here." When your "there" has become a "here,"=20= you will simply obtain another "there" that will again look better than "her= e."

7. Others are merely mirrors of you. You cannot love or hate something about= another person unless it reflects something you either love or hate about y= ourself.

8. What you make of your life is up to you. You have all the tools and resou= rces you need. What you do with them is up to you. The choice is yours.

9. Your answers lie inside you. The answers to Life's questions lie inside y= ou. All you need to do is look, listen and trust.

10. You will forget all this.

~by Cherie Carter-Scott~
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

= The Importance of Time
   A young man learns what's most important in life from the guy=20= next door. It had been some time since Jack had seen the old man. College, g= irls, career,and life itself got in the way. In fact, Jack moved clear acros= s the country in pursuit of his dreams. There, in the rush of his busy life,= Jack had little time to think about the past and often no time to spend wit= h his wife and son. He was working on his future, and nothing could stop him= .
   Over the phone, his mother told him, "Mr.. Belser died last ni= ght. The funeral is Wednesday."
   Memories flashed through his mind like an old newsreel as he s= at quietly remembering his childhood days.
    "Jack, did you hear me?"
   "Oh, sorry, Mom. Yes, I heard you . It's been so long since I=20= thought of him. I'm sorry, but I honestly thought he died years ago," Jack s= aid.
   "Well, he didn't forget you. Every time I saw him he'd ask how= you were doing. He'd reminisce about the many days you spent over 'his side= of the fence' as he put it," Mom told him.
   "I loved that old house he lived in," Jack said.
   "You know, Jack, after your father died, Mr. Belser stepped in= to make sure you had a man's influence in your life," she said.
   "He's the one who taught me carpentry," he said. "I wouldn't b= e in this business if it weren't for him. He spent a lot of time teaching me= things he thought were important...Mom, I'll be there for the funeral," Jac= k said.
   As busy as he was, he kept his word. Jack caught the next flig= ht to his hometown. Mr. Belser's funeral was small and uneventful. He had no= children of his own, and most of his relatives had passed away.
   The night before he had to return home, Jack and his Mom stopp= ed by to see the old house next door one more time.
   Standing in the doorway, Jack paused for a moment. It was like= crossing over into another dimension, a leap through space and time.
   The house was exactly as he remembered. Every step held memori= es. Every picture, every piece of furniture....Jack stopped suddenly.
   "What's wrong, Jack?" his Mom asked.
   "The box is gone," he said.
   "What box? " Mom asked.
   "There was a small gold box that he kept locked on top of his=20= desk. I must have asked him a thousand times what was inside. All he'd ever=20= tell me was the thing I value most,'" Jack said.
    It was gone. Everything about the house was exactly how=20= Jack remembered it,except for the box. He figured someone from the Belser fa= mily had taken it.
   "Now I'll never know what was so valuable to him," Jack said.=20= "I better get some sleep. I have an early flight home, Mom."
    It had been about two weeks since Mr. Belser died. Retur= ning home from work one day Jack discovered a note in his mailbox. "Signatur= e required on apackage. No one at home. Please stop by the main post office=20= within the next three days," the note read.
   Early the next day Jack retrieved the package. The small box w= as old and looked like it had been mailed a hundred years ago. The handwriti= ng was difficult to read, but the return address caught his attention.
   "Mr. Harold Belser" it read.
   Jack took the box out to his car and ripped open the package.=20= There inside was the gold box and an envelope. Jack's hands shook as he read= the note inside.
   "Upon my death, please forward this box and its contents to Ja= ck Bennett. It's the thing I valued most in my life." A small key was taped=20= to the letter. His heart racing, as tears filling his eyes, Jack carefully u= nlocked the box. There inside he found a beautiful gold pocket watch. Runnin= g his fingers slowly over the finely etched casing, he unlatched the cover.<= BR>    Inside he found these words engraved: "Jack, Thanks for your t= ime! -Harold Belser."
   "The thing he valued most...was...my time."
   Jack held the watch for a few minutes, then called his office=20= and cleared  his appointments for the next two days. "Why?" Janet, his= assistant asked.
   "I need some time to spend with my son," he said.
   "Oh, by the way, Janet...thanks for your time!"











******************************************************= *****
***** joel perlish, joel perlish photography *****
"anything you can picture"
401 colfax road, havertown,pa 19083-1314
joelperlish@aol.com * joelperlish@mac.com * web: www.joelperlish.com=
(the hawaii biking story in words & pictures: joelperlish.blogspot.com)=
dial 610-789-POSE(7673)* 800-718-PHOTOS * fax: 610-789-1095
********************************************************************=


--part1_1eb.20bda699.2ddc9f9e_boundary-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 19 15:38:54 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:38:54 EDT Subject: [DVBC] pic request Message-ID: <54.29e705a4.2ddccb7e@aol.com> -------------------------------1084977534 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Tony or Ed S., Can you please email me as an attachment picture PICT1191. That is such a great picture. -------------------------------1084977534 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Tony or Ed S.,
 
    Can you please email me as an attachment picture PIC= T1191. That is such a great picture.
-------------------------------1084977534-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 19 15:42:27 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Pete LaVerghetta) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:42:27 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] RE: pic request In-Reply-To: <54.29e705a4.2ddccb7e@aol.com> Message-ID: <000201c43daf$81b37750$8be85044@DD0LV321> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C43D8D.FAA1D750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Right click it, and select "save picture as" and then save it. Regards, Pete -----Original Message----- From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On Behalf Of EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:39 AM To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org Subject: [DVBC] pic request Hello Tony or Ed S., Can you please email me as an attachment picture PICT1191. That is such a great picture. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C43D8D.FAA1D750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Right click it, and select = “save picture as” and then save it.

 

Regards,

Pete

 

-----Original Message-----
From: = dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On = Behalf Of EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, = 2004 10:39 AM
To: = dvbc@list.dvbc.org
Subject: [DVBC] pic = request

 

Hello Tony or Ed S.,

 

    Can you please email me as an = attachment picture PICT1191. That is such a great picture.

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C43D8D.FAA1D750-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 19 15:56:05 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:56:05 EDT Subject: [DVBC] RE: pic request Message-ID: -------------------------------1084978565 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For some reason I tried that yesterday and it didn't work, but I did it again and it was OK. -------------------------------1084978565 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For some reason I tried that yesterday and it didn't work, but I did it a= gain and it was OK.   -------------------------------1084978565-- From list@dvbc.org Wed May 19 23:42:24 2004 From: list@dvbc.org (Edward Sobolewski) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 18:42:24 -0400 Subject: [DVBC] RE: pic request References: <000201c43daf$81b37750$8be85044@DD0LV321> Message-ID: <001901c43df2$8e9584c0$0200a8c0@cn104800a> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C43DD1.06F2C850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That will work also, but the copied picture from the web site would not = be the same quality as the original. I will send you original as = attachment. Edward ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Pete LaVerghetta=20 To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:42 AM Subject: [DVBC] RE: pic request Right click it, and select "save picture as" and then save it. Regards, Pete -----Original Message----- From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On = Behalf Of EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:39 AM To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org Subject: [DVBC] pic request Hello Tony or Ed S.,=20 Can you please email me as an attachment picture PICT1191. That is = such a great picture.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C43DD1.06F2C850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That will work=20 also, but the copied picture from the web site would not be the same = quality as=20 the original.  I will send = you=20 original as attachment.

Edward

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Pete=20 LaVerghetta
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 = 10:42=20 AM
Subject: [DVBC] RE: pic = request

Right click = it, and=20 select =93save picture as=94 and then save it.

 

Regards,

Pete

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org=20 [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On Behalf=20 Of EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 = 10:39=20 AM
To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org
Subject: [DVBC] pic=20 request

 

Hello Tony or Ed S.,=20

 

    Can = you please=20 email me as an attachment picture PICT1191. That is such a great = picture.=20

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From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 21 12:00:54 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:00:54 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 4
Message-ID: <052120041100.2357.40ADE1660001D2BB000009352158766755FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>

Can't believe string of comfortable weather. A quiet morning. Saw four cyclists, three exercising, one with a messenger bag. Rounded corner, startled Bambi - don't know who jumped higher.

Quittin' time. Legs starting to feel heavy, mind is willing, body is weak. Especially in the posterior - need to talk to Daves H and C about wonder "topical ointment." 

Rode part of the Bonkers Metric; big difference during rush hour. Know many back roads thanks to DVBC. Total miles to date, 155.

From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 21 15:33:32 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:33:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [DVBC] [Fwd: [BIKE] Bell to Bell Bike Ride along Schuylkill River Trail to celebrate women's history]
Message-ID: <50634.207.69.138.135.1085150012.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com>

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Subject: [BIKE] Bell to Bell Bike Ride along Schuylkill River Trail to
celebrate women's historyFrom: "John Boyle" 
Date: Fri, May 21, 2004 7:27 am
To: "'Bike listserve \(E-mail\)'" 

Wow this is quite a high profile event for our Schuylkill River Trail, it
deserves more attention than it gets.
JB

June 25 - 27, 2004, is a weekend full of special activities and programs
to mark 85 years since Pennsylvania ratified the 19th Amendment to the
U.S. Constitution on June 27, 1919. The weekend culminates with Sunday's
scenic 22-mile bicycle ride along the Schuylkill River Trail from the
Liberty Bell in Center City Philadelphia to the Justice Bell at Valley
Forge National Historical Park.

.           During the ride, stops along the way will have figures from
women's history for participants and visitors to meet.
.           Meet Abigail Adams at the Liberty Bell; Lucretia Mott,
Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Sojourner Truth along the way; and Alice Paul at
Washington Memorial Chapel in Valley Forge National Historical Park.
.           All the women's history figures will convene at the chapel at
2 p.m. for a carillon concert and ceremonial ringing of the Women's
Justice Bell,    forged in 1915 to promote women's right to vote.
.           A festival on the grounds of the Welcome Center at Valley
Forge will take place throughout the day, with food and entertainment for
the whole         family.
.           Families can also take a 5-mile fun ride along the
recreational paths at Valley Forge.

            For a complete listing of the Weekend's events, visit
www.womenadvancing.com 

            Enter to win the "Bell to Bell Bike Ride Weekend" Giveaway,
which includes:
.           Two round trip tickets on Southwest Airlines
.           Two nights Accommodations
            (One in Philadelphia; One in Valley Forge)
.           Two complimentary bike rentals for the day of the ride  You
can register for the
  "Bell to Bell"
Bike Ride here.
Sponsored by the Valley Forge Convention and Visitors Bureau



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Wow this is
quite a high profile event for our Schuylkill River Trail, it deserves more
attention than it gets.



JB



 



June 25 -
27, 2004, is a weekend full of special activities and programs to mark 85 years
since Pennsylvania ratified the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution on June
27, 1919. The weekend culminates with Sunday's scenic 22-mile bicycle ride
along the Schuylkill River Trail from the Liberty Bell in Center City
Philadelphia to the Justice Bell at Valley Forge National Historical Park. 



 



•           During
the ride, stops along the way will have figures from women's history for
participants and visitors to meet. 



•           Meet
Abigail Adams at the Liberty Bell; Lucretia Mott,
Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Sojourner Truth along the way; and Alice Paul at
Washington        Memorial
Chapel in Valley Forge National Historical Park. 



•           All
the women’s history figures will convene at the chapel at 2 p.m. for a
carillon concert and ceremonial ringing of the Women’s Justice Bell,    forged in 1915 to promote
women’s right to vote. 



•           A
festival on the grounds of the Welcome Center at Valley Forge will take place
throughout the day, with food and entertainment for the whole         family.




•           Families
can also take a 5-mile fun ride along the recreational paths at Valley Forge. 



            



            For
a complete listing of the Weekend's events, visit www.womenadvancing.com



 



            Enter
to win the "Bell to Bell Bike Ride Weekend" Giveaway, which includes:




•           Two
round trip tickets on Southwest Airlines 



•           Two
nights Accommodations 



            (One
in Philadelphia; One in Valley Forge) 



•           Two
complimentary bike rentals for the day of the ride 



You
can register for the
"Bell to Bell" Bike Ride here.



Sponsored
by the Valley Forge Convention and Visitors Bureau













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From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 21 15:52:17 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:52:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [DVBC] BTW day/Media
Message-ID: <47945.207.69.138.135.1085151137.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com>

Bike to work day went off without a hitch.  I guess the weather scared a
lot of folks away but everyone there won prizes.  Dom Zuppo won a free
night at the Point in Bryn Mawr.  ( I thought that was appropriate) Woody
also won a big valuable prize. (it was either dinner at the little inn, or
a $50 gift cirt from cycle fit or cycle sport. ) Maybe Gabby will call you
guys.  Anyway, my ride was a success for all who joined me.  Nobody was at
the start, maybe because I was fashionably late, so that made leading my
ride a whole lot easier.  I used the Bill Hoffman approach and took
Baltimore pike the whole way.  That was three miles shorter for me than
the senic route also refered to as BBP.  They had good bagels, Krispy
Kreme donuts, (no spreads, though) real coffee, oj, activasts from the
Sierra Club, and juice.  I saw State Rep Steve Barrar, Tom Shaffer, Gabby,
Ira, Bob Martin, Ira's son........I won a beautiful ceramic ashtray which I think can also be used to make
tarts. I finally arrived at work (home) around 10:00 am.TGIF
D'stre



From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 21 16:12:01 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:12:01 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] BTW day/Media
Message-ID: <132.2ecd96ec.2ddf7641@aol.com>

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Sorry I had to miss all the fun in Media. I did ride to work this week my 
normal Tuesday and Thursday. I am not able to move my Thursday to Friday because 
I lead a ride Thursday evening on the rebound. I did pass by the court house 
at 6:45 this morning, but no one was there yet.

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Sorry I had to miss all the fun in Media. I did ride to work this week my=
 normal Tuesday and Thursday. I am not able to move my Thursday to Friday be=
cause I lead a ride Thursday evening on the rebound. I did pass by the court=
 house at 6:45 this morning, but no one was there yet.

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From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 00:09:29 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (David)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:09:29 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cycle Commute failure
Message-ID: 

hey guys and fellow bike commuters,
    i have a confession.  for the second year in succession and the only
week this year, i drove to work every day.  so much for bike to work week.
i've waited for this weather all year and haven't ridden in it much.

btw, to all of you guys who did make it to work by bike, congrats.  it is
the greates thing to do before work.  (obvious exclusions apply.)  i hope
you all keep it up.  it's actually nicer to commute in when the weather is
crisp and the moon is your only company.

david c


From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 02:20:10 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 01:20:10 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] Cycle Commute failure
Message-ID: <052220040120.4240.40AEAAC9000C73EA000010902160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>

Oh, no, David. Say it isn't so! And I gave you credit for inspiring my commute this week.

The bike gods may rust your chain and bend your spokes, but we accept your human frailty. A box of Krispy Kremes at the next Wednesday night ride wouldn't hurt, either. :-)

Dom


> hey guys and fellow bike commuters,
>     i have a confession.  for the second year in succession and the only
> week this year, i drove to work every day.  so much for bike to work week.
> i've waited for this weather all year and haven't ridden in it much.
> 
> btw, to all of you guys who did make it to work by bike, congrats.  it is
> the greates thing to do before work.  (obvious exclusions apply.)  i hope
> you all keep it up.  it's actually nicer to commute in when the weather is
> crisp and the moon is your only company.
> 
> david c
> 
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc

From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 02:26:24 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 01:26:24 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 5
Message-ID: <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>

Woke up early. Excited about Bike to Work Day? No, cramps in both calves! Weather not looking good, either. And pleated pants don't roll well.

Climbing hill to Springfield Hosp. Major meltdown. Cramps back. The End. Limped home, drove bike to BTW event in Media. Saw Ira, Woody, Bob Martin and met politico Stephen Barrar. 

Have time to reflect at work. Pros and cons of commuting in Delco. Maybe write an article. Thanks for "listening." Total miles, 160.

From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 15:21:01 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:21:01 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Bike to Work Day
Message-ID: <002c01c44008$1c8794a0$26456acf@home>

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Big thanks to all the organizers, sponsors, and participants in this =
years Bike to Work Day in Media. Although the weather was not perfect, =
at least the big rains held off till it was over. Given the recent large =
increase in gas prices, I was hoping to have a few more riders, but as =
it was, we may have had a few more than last year anyway. I think =
everyone won a raffle prize and had a good time.
Thanks again. We'll do it again next year and continue promoting cycling =
as a great transportation option.
Ira
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recent=20
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won a=20
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Thanks again. We'll do it again next =
year and=20
continue promoting cycling as a great transportation =
option.


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From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 15:23:20 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:23:20 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 5
References: <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>
Message-ID: <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home>

Dom
Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
Never the less, great job bike commuting.
Ira
----- Original Message ----- 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:26 PM
Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 5


> Woke up early. Excited about Bike to Work Day? No, cramps in both calves!
Weather not looking good, either. And pleated pants don't roll well.
>
> Climbing hill to Springfield Hosp. Major meltdown. Cramps back. The End.
Limped home, drove bike to BTW event in Media. Saw Ira, Woody, Bob Martin
and met politico Stephen Barrar.
>
> Have time to reflect at work. Pros and cons of commuting in Delco. Maybe
write an article. Thanks for "listening." Total miles, 160.
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>



From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 15:28:17 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:28:17 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cycle Commute failure
References: 
Message-ID: <003601c44009$06b11b50$26456acf@home>

David
Don't sweat it. I think you already get extremely high marks for your bike
commuting efforts.
And thanks for the fruit donation- it helped make for a nice event.
Ira
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:09 PM
Subject: [DVBC] Cycle Commute failure


> hey guys and fellow bike commuters,
>     i have a confession.  for the second year in succession and the only
> week this year, i drove to work every day.  so much for bike to work week.
> i've waited for this weather all year and haven't ridden in it much.
>
> btw, to all of you guys who did make it to work by bike, congrats.  it is
> the greates thing to do before work.  (obvious exclusions apply.)  i hope
> you all keep it up.  it's actually nicer to commute in when the weather is
> crisp and the moon is your only company.
>
> david c
>
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>



From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 22:13:35 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 21:13:35 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 5
Message-ID: <052220042113.14290.40AFC27F0007E1C4000037D22200750330CCC0CFC7CE0B0A0A9F9C0A9B0704@comcast.net>

I haven't checked the website Ira mentioned, but I've heard that calcium (ie Tums, etc) helps prevent/cure cramps.

-Christine


> Dom
> Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
> Never the less, great job bike commuting.
> Ira
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:26 PM
> Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 5
> 
> 
> > Woke up early. Excited about Bike to Work Day? No, cramps in both calves!
> Weather not looking good, either. And pleated pants don't roll well.
> >
> > Climbing hill to Springfield Hosp. Major meltdown. Cramps back. The End.
> Limped home, drove bike to BTW event in Media. Saw Ira, Woody, Bob Martin
> and met politico Stephen Barrar.
> >
> > Have time to reflect at work. Pros and cons of commuting in Delco. Maybe
> write an article. Thanks for "listening." Total miles, 160.
> > _______________________________________________
> > DVBC mailing list
> > DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
> >
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc

From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 23:17:07 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Woody Kotch)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 18:17:07 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Mays Landing ride
References: 
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We had 17 incredible riders out today for our Mays Landing ride. I'd =
like to thank everyone for coming out and doing a great job with the =
pace lines. We double pace lined and I must say that I was very =
impressed with the smoothness and team work of the group. It was the =
best pacelining that I've experienced on  DVBC ride.

Special thanks to Edward S. , Charley S. and Doug B. for navigating. I =
especially appreciated the somewhat diminished pace near the end of the =
ride so I could avoid a cramp and remain with the group. (I forgot to =
take my Tums at the last rest stop, excuses excuses.)

Bob Ladrew and Bob Leon, we missed you both on this one.

Woody
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incredible riders out today for our Mays Landing ride. I'd =
like to=20
thank everyone for coming out and doing a great job with the pace lines. =
We=20
double pace lined and I must say that I was very impressed with the smoothness and team work of the =
group. It was=20
the best pacelining that I've experienced on  DVBC=20
ride.


 


Special thanks to=20
Edward S. , Charley S. and Doug B. for navigating. I especially =
appreciated the=20
somewhat diminished pace near the end of the ride so I could avoid a =
cramp and=20
remain with the group. (I forgot to take my Tums at the last rest stop, =
excuses=20
excuses.)


 


Bob =
Ladrew and Bob=20
Leon, we missed you both on this one.


 


Woody


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From list@dvbc.org  Sat May 22 23:21:10 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Larry Green)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 18:21:10 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 5
In-Reply-To: <052220042113.14290.40AFC27F0007E1C4000037D22200750330CCC0CFC7CE0B0A0A9F9C0A9B0704@comcast.net>
References: <052220042113.14290.40AFC27F0007E1C4000037D22200750330CCC0CFC7CE0B0A0A9F9C0A9B0704@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <40AFD256.8020403@earthlink.net>

litespeed19063@comcast.net wrote:

>I haven't checked the website Ira mentioned, but I've heard that calcium (ie Tums, etc) helps prevent/cure cramps.
>
>-Christine
>
>
>  
>
>>Dom
>>Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
>>Never the less, great job bike commuting.
>>Ira
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: 
>>To: 
>>Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:26 PM
>>Subject: [DVBC] BTW - Day 5
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Woke up early. Excited about Bike to Work Day? No, cramps in both calves!
>>>      
>>>
>>Weather not looking good, either. And pleated pants don't roll well.
>>    
>>
>>>Climbing hill to Springfield Hosp. Major meltdown. Cramps back. The End.
>>>      
>>>
>>Limped home, drove bike to BTW event in Media. Saw Ira, Woody, Bob Martin
>>and met politico Stephen Barrar.
>>    
>>
>>>Have time to reflect at work. Pros and cons of commuting in Delco. Maybe
>>>      
>>>
>>write an article. Thanks for "listening." Total miles, 160.
>>    
>>
>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>>>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>  
>
try water



From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 23 00:53:37 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 19:53:37 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] Mays Landing ride
Message-ID: <7e.4eff051a.2de14201@aol.com>

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Hello All, 

    I also had a good ride with great company on such a wonderful day. Bob 
Leon that might be a world record 17,000 miles in one day and still back for 
dinner. 


                                                                              
                  ED

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Hello All, 


 


    I also had a good ride with great company on such a=20=
wonderful day. Bob Leon that might be a world record 17,000 miles in one day=
 and still back for dinner. 


 


 


              &n=
bsp;               &n=
bsp;               &n=
bsp;               &n=
bsp;               &n=
bsp;               &n=
bsp; ED


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From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 23 14:24:07 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:24:07 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Mays Landing ride
In-Reply-To: <7e.4eff051a.2de14201@aol.com>
References: <7e.4eff051a.2de14201@aol.com>
Message-ID: <77E32039-ACBC-11D8-991E-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com>

It was a great ride. Never seen such a large group pace line so well 
for so long. We kept the double line going most of the way. The car 
drivers didn't seem to get too mad at us either for taking up more of 
the road with the dual line.

Ed, did you mean 1,700 miles?

-------------------------------------
Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
dhartrum@mac.com
dhartrum@comcast.net
-------------------------------------
On May 22, 2004, at 7:53 PM, EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com wrote:

> Hello All,
>   
>     I also had a good ride with great company on such a wonderful day. 
> Bob Leon that might be a world record 17,000 miles in one day and 
> still back for dinner.
>   
>  
>                                                                     
>                             ED



From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 23 14:45:14 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:45:14 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
In-Reply-To: <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home>
References: <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home>
Message-ID: <6B092400-ACBF-11D8-991E-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com>

Ira, have you used this product? Has anyone else on the list?

I am interested in some actual user testimony. I take some Tums over 
the course of a ride for the calcium. This has helped quite a bit but 
still get some cramping when sitting around the evening after a long 
hard ride. I also drink a lot of OJ for the Potassium. If this one 
drink has all the right electrolytes in the proper ratios and others 
have had good success I might give it a try.

Is there any product in pill form that can be popped during a ride? 
What are some actual foods to eat that would be high in these 
electrolytes?

-------------------------------------
Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
dhartrum@mac.com
dhartrum@comcast.net
-------------------------------------
On May 22, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Ira Josephs wrote:

> Dom
> Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
> Never the less, great job bike commuting.
> Ira


From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 23 19:10:28 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:10:28 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
In-Reply-To: <6B092400-ACBF-11D8-991E-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com>
References: <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home>
 <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>
 <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523140958.02e64b70@pop3.craftech.com>

Try tonic water before and after the ride. Skip the gin...

Tony


At 09:45 AM 5/23/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Ira, have you used this product? Has anyone else on the list?
>
>I am interested in some actual user testimony. I take some Tums over the 
>course of a ride for the calcium. This has helped quite a bit but still 
>get some cramping when sitting around the evening after a long hard ride. 
>I also drink a lot of OJ for the Potassium. If this one drink has all the 
>right electrolytes in the proper ratios and others have had good success I 
>might give it a try.
>
>Is there any product in pill form that can be popped during a ride? What 
>are some actual foods to eat that would be high in these electrolytes?
>
>-------------------------------------
>Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
>dhartrum@mac.com
>dhartrum@comcast.net
>-------------------------------------
>On May 22, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Ira Josephs wrote:
>
>>Dom
>>Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
>>Never the less, great job bike commuting.
>>Ira
>
>_______________________________________________
>DVBC mailing list
>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc


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Craftech Computer Solutions                 Fax 610-566-9340
113 Old State Road                         tony@craftech.com
Media, PA 19063                      http://www.craftech.com
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From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 23 19:54:52 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:54:52 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] Mays Landing ride
Message-ID: <195.2a21148d.2de24d7c@aol.com>

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Dave, Yes, that would have been 1,700. (100 x 17 = 1,700) I guess it is still 
respectable for mileage for Bob Leon for 1 day. ED  

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Dave, Yes, that would have been 1,700. (100 x 17 =3D 1,700) I guess it is=
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From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 23 21:32:17 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 16:32:17 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523140958.02e64b70@pop3.craftech.com>
References: <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home> <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home> <5.1.0.14.2.20040523140958.02e64b70@pop3.craftech.com>
Message-ID: <484411D4-ACF8-11D8-9D44-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com>

How about just a little bit of gin? Post ride of course :-)


On May 23, 2004, at 2:10 PM, Antonio Rocha wrote:

> Try tonic water before and after the ride. Skip the gin...
>
> Tony
>
>
> At 09:45 AM 5/23/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>> Ira, have you used this product? Has anyone else on the list?
>>
>> I am interested in some actual user testimony. I take some Tums over 
>> the course of a ride for the calcium. This has helped quite a bit but 
>> still get some cramping when sitting around the evening after a long 
>> hard ride. I also drink a lot of OJ for the Potassium. If this one 
>> drink has all the right electrolytes in the proper ratios and others 
>> have had good success I might give it a try.
>>
>> Is there any product in pill form that can be popped during a ride? 
>> What are some actual foods to eat that would be high in these 
>> electrolytes?
>>
>> -------------------------------------
>> Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
>> dhartrum@mac.com
>> dhartrum@comcast.net
>> -------------------------------------
>> On May 22, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Ira Josephs wrote:
>>
>>> Dom
>>> Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
>>> Never the less, great job bike commuting.
>>> Ira
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> DVBC mailing list
>> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> Craftech Computer Solutions                 Fax 610-566-9340
> 113 Old State Road                         tony@craftech.com
> Media, PA 19063                      http://www.craftech.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 23 22:48:54 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 17:48:54 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
In-Reply-To: <484411D4-ACF8-11D8-9D44-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523140958.02e64b70@pop3.craftech.com>
 <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home>
 <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>
 <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home>
 <5.1.0.14.2.20040523140958.02e64b70@pop3.craftech.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523174801.00bc9628@pop3.craftech.com>

At 04:32 PM 5/23/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>How about just a little bit of gin? Post ride of course :-)

No... but you can also mix Tonic Water with a little OJ so it's not so 
nasty to drink.
It works.. try it.
Tony




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Antonio Rocha                             Voice 610-566-0980
Craftech Computer Solutions                 Fax 610-566-9340
113 Old State Road                         tony@craftech.com
Media, PA 19063                      http://www.craftech.com
------------------------------------------------------------


From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 23 23:29:07 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 18:29:07 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
Message-ID: <19e.249f80c8.2de27fb3@aol.com>

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I, for one, happen to like the taste of tonic water.  (Could have something 
to do with having been weaned on dry vodka martinis.  I'm also crazy about 
those green olives with pimentos inside them!)

Doesn't tonic water contain quinine, and isn't quinine toxic?  (Probably 
another reason I like it.)

Bob B.

In a message dated 5/23/04 5:50:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tony@dvbc.org 
writes:


> No... but you can also mix Tonic Water with a little OJ so it's not so 
> nasty to drink.
> It works.. try it.
> Tony
> 


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I, for=20=
one, happen to like the taste of tonic water.  (Could have something to=
 do with having been weaned on dry vodka martinis.  I'm also crazy abou=
t those green olives with pimentos inside them!)



Doesn't tonic water contain quinine, and isn't quinine toxic?  (Probabl=
y another reason I like it.)



Bob B.



In a message dated 5/23/04 5:50:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tony@dvbc.org w=
rites:






No... but you can also mix Toni=
c Water with a little OJ so it's not so 

nasty to drink.

It works.. try it.

Tony







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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 01:17:43 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:17:43 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
References: <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home> <6B092400-ACBF-11D8-991E-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c44124$896c70f0$4c456acf@home>

Sorry, I haven't tried it and don't know anybody that has. Maybe you could
be the Guinea pig.
Ira
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Hartrum" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:45 AM
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes


> Ira, have you used this product? Has anyone else on the list?
>
> I am interested in some actual user testimony. I take some Tums over
> the course of a ride for the calcium. This has helped quite a bit but
> still get some cramping when sitting around the evening after a long
> hard ride. I also drink a lot of OJ for the Potassium. If this one
> drink has all the right electrolytes in the proper ratios and others
> have had good success I might give it a try.
>
> Is there any product in pill form that can be popped during a ride?
> What are some actual foods to eat that would be high in these
> electrolytes?
>
> -------------------------------------
> Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
> dhartrum@mac.com
> dhartrum@comcast.net
> -------------------------------------
> On May 22, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Ira Josephs wrote:
>
> > Dom
> > Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
> > Never the less, great job bike commuting.
> > Ira
>
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>



From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 01:25:15 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (eric zwicky)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:25:15 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
In-Reply-To: <003d01c44124$896c70f0$4c456acf@home>
References: <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home> <6B092400-ACBF-11D8-991E-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com> <003d01c44124$896c70f0$4c456acf@home>
Message-ID: 

i will volunteer to be the guinea pig.  if any constant can be
depended on, it is the fact that i will get cramps after about 40 hard
miles.  nothing seems to help... conditioning, water, gatorade,
calcium pills, potassium pills, bananas, whatever.

today  i had severe cramps twice.  once just before a lemonade stand
afforded a chance to stretch a bit, the second time right at the end
of the ride when i stood up to beat the light at the wayne train
station.

can i buy this stuff locally, or is it just available via mail/web
order?

-eric



On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:17:43 -0400, you wrote:

>Sorry, I haven't tried it and don't know anybody that has. Maybe you could
>be the Guinea pig.
>Ira
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Dave Hartrum" 
>To: 
>Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:45 AM
>Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
>
>
>> Ira, have you used this product? Has anyone else on the list?
>>
>> I am interested in some actual user testimony. I take some Tums over
>> the course of a ride for the calcium. This has helped quite a bit but
>> still get some cramping when sitting around the evening after a long
>> hard ride. I also drink a lot of OJ for the Potassium. If this one
>> drink has all the right electrolytes in the proper ratios and others
>> have had good success I might give it a try.
>>
>> Is there any product in pill form that can be popped during a ride?
>> What are some actual foods to eat that would be high in these
>> electrolytes?
>>
>> -------------------------------------
>> Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
>> dhartrum@mac.com
>> dhartrum@comcast.net
>> -------------------------------------
>> On May 22, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Ira Josephs wrote:
>>
>> > Dom
>> > Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
>> > Never the less, great job bike commuting.
>> > Ira
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> DVBC mailing list
>> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>DVBC mailing list
>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc




From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 01:48:34 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:48:34 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
In-Reply-To: <19e.249f80c8.2de27fb3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523204716.02ea6868@pop3.craftech.com>

>Doesn't tonic water contain quinine, and isn't quinine toxic?  (Probably 
>another reason I like it.)

Quinine is actually what prevents cramping. I spent 6 years in africa and 
had to take it daily to avoid malaria.
Maybe toxic but I didn't dye.
Tony


------------------------------------------------------------
Antonio Rocha                             Voice 610-566-0980
Craftech Computer Solutions                 Fax 610-566-9340
113 Old State Road                         tony@craftech.com
Media, PA 19063                      http://www.craftech.com
------------------------------------------------------------


From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 02:12:16 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 21:12:16 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
References: <052220040126.7894.40AEAC3F0008B46900001ED62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> <003001c44008$55cbeb80$26456acf@home> <6B092400-ACBF-11D8-991E-0050E4DA3D62@mac.com> <003d01c44124$896c70f0$4c456acf@home> 
Message-ID: <004901c4412c$284fc760$4c456acf@home>

I've never seen it anywhere, Eric.
Ira
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "eric zwicky" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes


> i will volunteer to be the guinea pig.  if any constant can be
> depended on, it is the fact that i will get cramps after about 40 hard
> miles.  nothing seems to help... conditioning, water, gatorade,
> calcium pills, potassium pills, bananas, whatever.
>
> today  i had severe cramps twice.  once just before a lemonade stand
> afforded a chance to stretch a bit, the second time right at the end
> of the ride when i stood up to beat the light at the wayne train
> station.
>
> can i buy this stuff locally, or is it just available via mail/web
> order?
>
> -eric
>
>
>
> On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:17:43 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Sorry, I haven't tried it and don't know anybody that has. Maybe you
could
> >be the Guinea pig.
> >Ira
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Dave Hartrum" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:45 AM
> >Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
> >
> >
> >> Ira, have you used this product? Has anyone else on the list?
> >>
> >> I am interested in some actual user testimony. I take some Tums over
> >> the course of a ride for the calcium. This has helped quite a bit but
> >> still get some cramping when sitting around the evening after a long
> >> hard ride. I also drink a lot of OJ for the Potassium. If this one
> >> drink has all the right electrolytes in the proper ratios and others
> >> have had good success I might give it a try.
> >>
> >> Is there any product in pill form that can be popped during a ride?
> >> What are some actual foods to eat that would be high in these
> >> electrolytes?
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------
> >> Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
> >> dhartrum@mac.com
> >> dhartrum@comcast.net
> >> -------------------------------------
> >> On May 22, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Ira Josephs wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dom
> >> > Maybe you should check out www.crampnomore.com.
> >> > Never the less, great job bike commuting.
> >> > Ira
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> DVBC mailing list
> >> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> >> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
> >>
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >DVBC mailing list
> >DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> >http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>



From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 05:48:43 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Bob Leon)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:48:43 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Mays Landing ride
In-Reply-To: <195.2a21148d.2de24d7c@aol.com>
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If you guy's can keep this up I'll have over 5,000 miles this year without
trying.
Keep up the good work, I'll be out there with you before you know it.

Bob
  -----Original Message-----
  From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org]On Behalf
Of EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:55 PM
  To: list@dvbc.org
  Subject: Re: [DVBC] Mays Landing ride


  Dave, Yes, that would have been 1,700. (100 x 17 = 1,700) I guess it is
still respectable for mileage for Bob Leon for 1 day. ED

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have over=20
5,000 miles this year without trying.


Keep up the good work, I'll be out =
there=20
with you before you know it.


 


Bob



  
-----Original Message-----
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  dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org]On Behalf =
Of=20
  EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com
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  PM
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Subject: Re: [DVBC] Mays =
Landing=20
  ride

Dave, Yes, that would have been 1,700. (100 x =
17 =3D=20
  1,700) I guess it is still respectable for mileage for Bob Leon for 1 =
day.=20
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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 06:08:09 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Larry Green)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:08:09 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523204716.02ea6868@pop3.craftech.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523204716.02ea6868@pop3.craftech.com>
Message-ID: <40B18339.9030601@earthlink.net>

Antonio Rocha wrote:

>
>> Doesn't tonic water contain quinine, and isn't quinine toxic? 
>> (Probably another reason I like it.)
>
>
> Quinine is actually what prevents cramping. I spent 6 years in africa 
> and had to take it daily to avoid malaria.
> Maybe toxic but I didn't dye.
> Tony
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980
> Craftech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340
> 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com
> Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
Right you are, Tony. It is a regular remedy for night-time cramping in 
addition to it's use as an anti-malarial.
The amount in tonic water, however, is not enough to have much of an 
effect. It's the water that does it-hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!
Of course there is something to be said for Homeopathy- the treatment of 
illness with microscopic amounts of medication-------!

Doc



From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 15:33:32 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:33:32 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride
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I just realized that Monday is a holiday with most of us probably being off 
with no ride listed. Any takers? If not, I will list an ad hoc ride starting 
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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 15:52:28 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:52:28 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040524105202.03327c50@pop3.craftech.com>

I was thinking about doing my Manayunk ride.

Tony


At 10:33 AM 5/24/04 -0400, you wrote:
>I just realized that Monday is a holiday with most of us probably being 
>off with no ride listed. Any takers? If not, I will list an ad hoc ride 
>starting and going somewhere at probably some sort of relaxed pace.


From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 16:02:38 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:02:38 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride
Message-ID: <1cb.21c6a3f7.2de3688e@aol.com>

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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 16:44:02 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (J Peter Rosenfeld)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:44:02 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cycle Commute failure
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <40B21842.3010208@atl.lmco.com>

David wrote:

>hey guys and fellow bike commuters,
>    i have a confession.  for the second year in succession and the only
>week this year, i drove to work every day.  so much for bike to work week.
>i've waited for this weather all year and haven't ridden in it much.
>
>btw, to all of you guys who did make it to work by bike, congrats.  it is
>the greates thing to do before work.  (obvious exclusions apply.)  i hope
>you all keep it up.  it's actually nicer to commute in when the weather is
>crisp and the moon is your only company.
>
>david c
>
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>  
>


Hey, don't feel bad. the same thing seems to happen to me. I bike to work EVERY day - rain, snow, ice doesn't matter. However, it seems every bike to work week something comes up. This year, I had to attend business meetings 60 miles away - a tad too far for me to bike. So I missed 3 days during bike to work week and one of those days was bike to work day.

However, I did get 2 other people to bike in for the first time to make up for me.

-Peter R.
Cherry Hill, NJ



From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 16:55:10 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:55:10 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride
Message-ID: <12186029.1085414110640.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com>

A ride to Manayunk sounds good to me. I would like to get a nice early start so that I could be home in the early afternoon.
 
On Monday, May 24, 2004, at 10:52AM, Antonio Rocha  wrote:

>I was thinking about doing my Manayunk ride.
>
>Tony
>
>
>At 10:33 AM 5/24/04 -0400, you wrote:
>>I just realized that Monday is a holiday with most of us probably being 
>>off with no ride listed. Any takers? If not, I will list an ad hoc ride 
>>starting and going somewhere at probably some sort of relaxed pace.
>
>_______________________________________________
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>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>


----------------
Dave Hartrum
dhartrum@mac.com

From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 17:30:41 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:30:41 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] June Newsletter
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040524122611.02db8aa0@pop3.craftech.com>

Hello everyone,
The June newsletter in PDF format is now available on our website. You can 
go to http://www.dvbc.org/newsletter/June04.pdf to download it.

As you know, the club is trying to save some money on postage by making the 
newsletter available on the web site, so if you are happy receiving your 
monthly newsletter as a PDF, please send an email to President Dom Zuppo 
telling him, "Remove my name from the snail-mail list of recipients of the 
DVBC newsletter; I am willing to download it each month as a PDF." Dom's 
email address is: membership@dvbc.org. If you do this promptly, it will 
even save us the expense of mailing out the June newsletter.

Judy and Bob... great job with the PDF.

Tony

-----------------------------------------------
Antonio Rocha                Voice 610-566-0980
CrafTech Computer Solutions    Fax 610-566-9340
113 Old State Road            tony@craftech.com
Media, PA 19063         http://www.craftech.com
-----------------------------------------------


From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 17:23:28 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:23:28 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride
Message-ID: <16248158.1085415808745.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com>

Tony, I see that you have a ride posted for Sunday June 6th titled Art Museum. Sunday June 6th is the day of the Wachovia Pro Cycling race in Philly. 

http://www.procyclingtour.com/race_overview.cfm/race_id/6

Is your ride planning to spend the day down there and come back late afternoon? Are there other rides planning to go in town for the event?

I will likely drive down early and do the charity fun ride. That is usually over early and then I ride out of town until I meet up with one of the DVBC groups coming into town and then turn around and ride in with the group for the ride. So I am just wondering what groups will be coming from where so that I can pick one to meet up with.

----------------
Dave Hartrum
dhartrum@mac.com

From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 15:16:18 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Pazos, Javier)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:16:18 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] West River Drive Time Trial report
Message-ID: <17DF4A2CAB1DD3119CD40010E37C60590402A7CB@EXCHANGE>

	One of my regrets as a DVBC member is that I never rode in a DVBC
time 

trial.  This year I wanted a way to gauge my fitness throughout the 

season and unfortunately the DVBC no longer has time trials.  So I 

settled instead on the West River Drive time trial ( 

http://oll.temple.edu/economics/Cycling/Ttannoun_files/TTannoun04.htm 

).  An 8.35 mile out and back course along WRD starting and ending by 

the Art museum with the turn-around at Falls bridge was just what I was 

looking for.  

	I arrived at the TT ten minutes before the start with my 

ride there being my warm-up.  When they started to take names and 

assign pole positions, they needed volunteers for the first few spots.  

Naturally no one stepped forward.  Everybody likes to be somewhere in 

the middle so they have riders in front of them to chase.  Have you 

already guessed who ended up getting drafted into the #1 pole position?

That's right, your's truly.  Not exactly where I wanted to be, but I 

would make the best of it.  

	The one good thing about starting first is

that the clock starts with rider #1, so you're free to start at your 

own will.  I put the bike in a big gear, clipped in and started 

cranking away at the pedals.  The first half-mile to mile was 

absolute misery.  I was convinced that I had gone out too hard.  I felt 

like I was about to blow up and I kept thinking how embarrasing it 

would be to get caught in the first mile.  It wasn't until Sweetbriar 

road that I finally found my groove.  Yes, a horribly painful groove 

that couldn't end soon enough, but a groove none the less.  Once again 

my mind turned to the riders behind me who were breathing down my neck. 

My +30sec rider (and probably the +60sec rider also) was right on the 

verge of catching me.  Or maybe not.  I didn't have a clue!  That's the 

biggest problem with starting first is that for the first half of the 

race, you have no idea what's going on behind you.  Best to assume the 

worst.  

	But after turning around at Falls bridge, I saw no one until 

after going under the RR overpass.  This was a slight boost to my 

confidence, and since the light headwind was now a light tailwind, I 

upshifted a gear and set my mind on the finish.  Okay, so the finish 

was still a ways off, but anything to distract me from the pain was 

good.  On getting to the finish line, we were instructed to shout out 

our numbers as we crossed so the timer could record the information 

right.  Another advantage of being #1 is that I think the timer could figure


out who I was so I wouldn't need to shout.  I lifted a single finger to 

signal #1 as I sluggishly pushed my weary body accross the line.  I 

finished the course in 19:46 (avg. 25.35mph) for a new PR!  (of course 

this was the first time I'd done this TT so any time would've been a 

new PR)  Now I've got a benchmark to shoot for later in the season.  


	The fastest time of the day was posted by Nathan Rouse at 18:08 

(27.63mph).  Now that's quite humbling.

From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 24 21:28:09 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:28:09 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride
In-Reply-To: <16248158.1085415808745.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040524162707.02fd9730@pop3.craftech.com>

Opps... I missed that one. I will probably do the same as previous years.
I'll drive down to Manayunk and then get on the bike and go see the race.

Tony


At 12:23 PM 5/24/04 -0400, you wrote:
>Tony, I see that you have a ride posted for Sunday June 6th titled Art 
>Museum. Sunday June 6th is the day of the Wachovia Pro Cycling race in Philly.
>
>http://www.procyclingtour.com/race_overview.cfm/race_id/6
>
>Is your ride planning to spend the day down there and come back late 
>afternoon? Are there other rides planning to go in town for the event?
>
>I will likely drive down early and do the charity fun ride. That is 
>usually over early and then I ride out of town until I meet up with one of 
>the DVBC groups coming into town and then turn around and ride in with the 
>group for the ride. So I am just wondering what groups will be coming from 
>where so that I can pick one to meet up with.
>
>----------------
>Dave Hartrum
>dhartrum@mac.com
>_______________________________________________
>DVBC mailing list
>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc


From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 02:27:43 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ann Martha)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:27:43 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride
In-Reply-To: <16248158.1085415808745.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com>
References: <16248158.1085415808745.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040524211016.02199288@mail.phila.k12.pa.us>

On June 6, I'll be filling in for Henry Lazarus for the Sunday Morning 
Breakfast Ride.   You are welcome to ride with us and enjoy our route where 
we watch the race at several places along the course.


The plan for BCP follows:

1.  We assemble at 8:45 AM at 22nd and Spring Garden Sts.
2.  At 8:55 AM, we ride 2 blocks to the race to see the start of the race.

After the women start off we begin our ride.

Route:   retrace Spring Garden St.
         L      Pennsylvania Ave.
         R     29th
         L      Poplar St.  over RR
         R      Poplar Dr.
         X      Girard Ave.
         S      33rd St.
         L       Memorial Dr. into Park
         S       Park Reservoir Dr.
                  We wait at Park Dr. and Strawberry Mansion Dr. to watch 
the back end of the race on
                  Strawberry Hill.
         R     Strawberry Dr.
         L      Strawberry Mansion Dr.
         L      Strawberry Mansion  Dr.
         R      cross Strawberry Mansion Bridge
         S       Ford Rd.
         L       Chamounix Dr.
         L       Belmont Mansion Dr.  through Belmont Plateau
         R       Georges Hill Dr.
         X       Belmont Ave.
         S       Georges Hill Dr.
         L       at T – tso Georges Hill Dr.
                         Descend Georges Hill
         R       Concourse exit at 52nd St.
         R       Parkside Ave.
         L       Bryn Mawr Ave.
         L       Union Ave.
         QR   Old Lancaster
         L       Latches Lane
         R       Merion Ave
         X       Through Train Station
         L       Valley Rd.
         L       Bowman Ave.
         R       Remington Rd.
         R       Williams Ave.
         L       Parking Lot to Delancey Street Bagels for breakfast

         Return

         R       Wynnewood Rd.
         L       Wynnewood Rd.
         R       Windsor Ave. around park
         L       Iona Ave.
         X       Montgomery Ave.
         S       Iona
         BR     Brookhurst (2nd right)
         L       Woodbine Ave.
         R       Bryn Mawr Ave.
         L       Manayunk Ave.
         R       Conshohocken State Rd.
         L       Rock Hill Rd.
         L       Belmont Ave.
         S       X Green Lane Bridge
         R       Main St.    (2 blocks from the beginning of the climb up 
the WALL - in time for lap 5)
         The ride usually breaks up in Manayunk with some folks catching a 
lap or two on the WALL and others walking     down Main St and back to the 
Kelly Dr. bike path to return to the start of the race and the finish line.






At 08:28 PM 5/24/2004, you wrote:
>Tony, I see that you have a ride posted for Sunday June 6th titled Art 
>Museum. Sunday June 6th is the day of the Wachovia Pro Cycling race in Philly.
>
>http://www.procyclingtour.com/race_overview.cfm/race_id/6
>
>Is your ride planning to spend the day down there and come back late 
>afternoon? Are there other rides planning to go in town for the event?
>
>I will likely drive down early and do the charity fun ride. That is 
>usually over early and then I ride out of town until I meet up with one of 
>the DVBC groups coming into town and then turn around and ride in with the 
>group for the ride. So I am just wondering what groups will be coming from 
>where so that I can pick one to meet up with.
>
>----------------
>Dave Hartrum
>dhartrum@mac.com
>_______________________________________________
>DVBC mailing list
>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc

Ann Martha
Librarian
Central High School
Ogontz and Olney Avenues
Philadelphia,  PA  19141
215-276-5262
[FAX] 215-276-4721
amartha@phila.k12.pa.us

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From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 04:05:01 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:05:01 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523204716.02ea6868@pop3.craftech.com> <40B18339.9030601@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <007e01c44205$12bca880$55456acf@home>

Larry
Are you saying that quinine water is  homeopathic medicine? Or are you maybe
suggesting that I should find what homeopathic remedies are indicated for
leg cramping so we could help these guys out?
Ira
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Green" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes


> Antonio Rocha wrote:
>
> >
> >> Doesn't tonic water contain quinine, and isn't quinine toxic?
> >> (Probably another reason I like it.)
> >
> >
> > Quinine is actually what prevents cramping. I spent 6 years in africa
> > and had to take it daily to avoid malaria.
> > Maybe toxic but I didn't dye.
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980
> > Craftech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340
> > 113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com
> > Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > DVBC mailing list
> > DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
> >
> Right you are, Tony. It is a regular remedy for night-time cramping in
> addition to it's use as an anti-malarial.
> The amount in tonic water, however, is not enough to have much of an
> effect. It's the water that does it-hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!
> Of course there is something to be said for Homeopathy- the treatment of
> illness with microscopic amounts of medication-------!
>
> Doc
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>



From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 04:07:12 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:07:12 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride
References: <16248158.1085415808745.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com>
Message-ID: <008401c44205$609ae490$55456acf@home>

Dave
I usually ride to the race, then around the course and stay all day. Last
year I think I went in alone and rode to the Art Museum first in time for
the start.
Ira
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Hartrum" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DVBC] Memorial Day ride


> Tony, I see that you have a ride posted for Sunday June 6th titled Art
Museum. Sunday June 6th is the day of the Wachovia Pro Cycling race in
Philly.
>
> http://www.procyclingtour.com/race_overview.cfm/race_id/6
>
> Is your ride planning to spend the day down there and come back late
afternoon? Are there other rides planning to go in town for the event?
>
> I will likely drive down early and do the charity fun ride. That is
usually over early and then I ride out of town until I meet up with one of
the DVBC groups coming into town and then turn around and ride in with the
group for the ride. So I am just wondering what groups will be coming from
where so that I can pick one to meet up with.
>
> ----------------
> Dave Hartrum
> dhartrum@mac.com
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>



From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 04:56:50 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Larry Green)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:56:50 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
In-Reply-To: <007e01c44205$12bca880$55456acf@home>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523204716.02ea6868@pop3.craftech.com> <40B18339.9030601@earthlink.net> <007e01c44205$12bca880$55456acf@home>
Message-ID: <40B2C402.3090603@earthlink.net>

Ira Josephs wrote:

>Larry
>Are you saying that quinine water is  homeopathic medicine? Or are you maybe
>suggesting that I should find what homeopathic remedies are indicated for
>leg cramping so we could help these guys out?
>Ira
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Larry Green" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [DVBC] Cramping and electrolytes
>
>
>  
>
>>Antonio Rocha wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>Doesn't tonic water contain quinine, and isn't quinine toxic?
>>>>(Probably another reason I like it.)
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Quinine is actually what prevents cramping. I spent 6 years in africa
>>>and had to take it daily to avoid malaria.
>>>Maybe toxic but I didn't dye.
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------
>>>Antonio Rocha Voice 610-566-0980
>>>Craftech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340
>>>113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com
>>>Media, PA 19063 http://www.craftech.com
>>>------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>DVBC mailing list
>>>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>>>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Right you are, Tony. It is a regular remedy for night-time cramping in
>>addition to it's use as an anti-malarial.
>>The amount in tonic water, however, is not enough to have much of an
>>effect. It's the water that does it-hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!
>>Of course there is something to be said for Homeopathy- the treatment of
>>illness with microscopic amounts of medication-------!
>>
>>Doc
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>DVBC mailing list
>>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>DVBC mailing list
>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>  
>
yes



From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 11:17:06 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:17:06 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
Message-ID: <052520041017.4214.40B31D220003BBF0000010762158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>

Good morning, everyone.

I've volunteered to help at the Wachovia cycling event in Lancaster, PA on June 1st. Are any other club members going to the race? Given today's fuel costs, are you interested in car-pooling? Send me a note if you are. Thank you!

Dom

From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 11:38:31 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:38:31 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <052520041017.4214.40B31D220003BBF0000010762158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>
References: <052520041017.4214.40B31D220003BBF0000010762158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>
Message-ID: 

I am signed up as a volunteer also. I will be going out the night 
before and staying with my father in New Holland. I plan an early 
morning ride out there before I head into Lancaster for the race. Sorry 
I can't carpool with you.

Jan is also planning to be at the race as a volunteer.

You should already have my cell phone number from the Bonkers phone 
list. Call me the day of the race if you want to try and meet up out 
there.

-------------------------------------
Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
dhartrum@mac.com
dhartrum@comcast.net
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On May 25, 2004, at 6:17 AM, domzuppo@att.net wrote:

> Good morning, everyone.
>
> I've volunteered to help at the Wachovia cycling event in Lancaster, 
> PA on June 1st. Are any other club members going to the race? Given 
> today's fuel costs, are you interested in car-pooling? Send me a note 
> if you are. Thank you!
>
> Dom
> _______________________________________________
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> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc


From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 12:06:01 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (eric zwicky)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:06:01 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] was: cramping and electrolytes,  now: homeopathic medicine
In-Reply-To: <40B2C402.3090603@earthlink.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523204716.02ea6868@pop3.craftech.com> <40B18339.9030601@earthlink.net> <007e01c44205$12bca880$55456acf@home> <40B2C402.3090603@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: 

ira wrote:

>>Larry
>>Are you saying that quinine water is  homeopathic medicine? Or are you maybe
>>suggesting that I should find what homeopathic remedies are indicated for
>>leg cramping so we could help these guys out?
>>Ira

because larry wrote:

>>>Right you are, Tony. It is a regular remedy for night-time cramping in
>>>addition to it's use as an anti-malarial.
>>>The amount in tonic water, however, is not enough to have much of an
>>>effect. It's the water that does it-hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!
>>>Of course there is something to be said for Homeopathy- the treatment of
>>>illness with microscopic amounts of medication-------!
>>>
>>>Doc

then larry replied to ira thus:

>yes


i say:

i thought homeopathic medicine has to do with the practice of giving
yourself small doses of a disease in order to build up a resistance to
that disease.  am i mistaken?

-eric





From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 12:32:10 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Douglas Bower)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:32:10 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <052520041017.4214.40B31D220003BBF0000010762158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>
Message-ID: <001001c4424b$f0439d80$cbb85144@myyhsl5zw1msn2>

Dom,

Is this where someone mentions "gas guzzling SUV's"?

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On
Behalf Of domzuppo@att.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 6:17 AM
To: list@dvbc.org
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster


Good morning, everyone.

I've volunteered to help at the Wachovia cycling event in Lancaster, PA
on June 1st. Are any other club members going to the race? Given today's
fuel costs, are you interested in car-pooling? Send me a note if you
are. Thank you!

Dom
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From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 14:11:08 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Larry Green)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:11:08 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] was: cramping and electrolytes,  now: homeopathic medicine
In-Reply-To: 
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523204716.02ea6868@pop3.craftech.com> <40B18339.9030601@earthlink.net> <007e01c44205$12bca880$55456acf@home> <40B2C402.3090603@earthlink.net> 
Message-ID: <40B345EC.7000005@earthlink.net>

eric zwicky wrote:

>ira wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>Larry
>>>Are you saying that quinine water is  homeopathic medicine? Or are you maybe
>>>suggesting that I should find what homeopathic remedies are indicated for
>>>leg cramping so we could help these guys out?
>>>Ira
>>>      
>>>
>
>because larry wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>>Right you are, Tony. It is a regular remedy for night-time cramping in
>>>>addition to it's use as an anti-malarial.
>>>>The amount in tonic water, however, is not enough to have much of an
>>>>effect. It's the water that does it-hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!
>>>>Of course there is something to be said for Homeopathy- the treatment of
>>>>illness with microscopic amounts of medication-------!
>>>>
>>>>Doc
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>then larry replied to ira thus:
>
>  
>
>>yes
>>    
>>
>
>
>i say:
>
>i thought homeopathic medicine has to do with the practice of giving
>yourself small doses of a disease in order to build up a resistance to
>that disease.  am i mistaken?
>
>-eric
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>DVBC mailing list
>DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>  
>
yes.



From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 14:31:55 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:31:55 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
References: <052520041017.4214.40B31D220003BBF0000010762158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>
Message-ID: <000d01c4425c$a5fa8660$0a00010a@mycomputer>

    Judy and Jan are also marshaling that day. They are leaving together
from our house near Coatesville. You are welcome to join them.
    --Bob LaDrew
----- Original Message -----
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 6:17 AM
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster


> Good morning, everyone.
>
> I've volunteered to help at the Wachovia cycling event in Lancaster, PA on
June 1st. Are any other club members going to the race? Given today's fuel
costs, are you interested in car-pooling? Send me a note if you are. Thank
you!
>
> Dom
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>


From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 15:12:06 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Ira Josephs)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:12:06 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] was: cramping and electrolytes,  now: homeopathic medicine
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040523204716.02ea6868@pop3.craftech.com> <40B18339.9030601@earthlink.net> <007e01c44205$12bca880$55456acf@home> <40B2C402.3090603@earthlink.net> 
Message-ID: <002d01c44262$434f3870$4a456acf@home>

Eric
I would say that is not exactly correct. They do use the idea that like
cures like. But you can take a remedy anytime you come down with something
to make it go away.
The remedies (medicines) are formulated out of extremely dilute solutions of
the active ingredient then put onto very tiny sugar pills which you take 4
or 5 of and dissolve under your tongue.
Because of such a low dosage you can take them very often until you get
results and there are no side effects or synergistic effects with anything
else you might be taking.
It can be a little tricky finding a correct remedy sometimes, but when you
do the effects can be dramatic.
Ira
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "eric zwicky" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:06 AM
Subject: [DVBC] was: cramping and electrolytes, now: homeopathic medicine


>
> ira wrote:
>
> >>Larry
> >>Are you saying that quinine water is  homeopathic medicine? Or are you
maybe
> >>suggesting that I should find what homeopathic remedies are indicated
for
> >>leg cramping so we could help these guys out?
> >>Ira
>
> because larry wrote:
>
> >>>Right you are, Tony. It is a regular remedy for night-time cramping in
> >>>addition to it's use as an anti-malarial.
> >>>The amount in tonic water, however, is not enough to have much of an
> >>>effect. It's the water that does it-hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!
> >>>Of course there is something to be said for Homeopathy- the treatment
of
> >>>illness with microscopic amounts of medication-------!
> >>>
> >>>Doc
>
> then larry replied to ira thus:
>
> >yes
>
>
> i say:
>
> i thought homeopathic medicine has to do with the practice of giving
> yourself small doses of a disease in order to build up a resistance to
> that disease.  am i mistaken?
>
> -eric
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>



From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 15:56:24 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:56:24 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Bonkers Videos
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040525104743.0305f020@pop3.craftech.com>

Guys this is too much.... Dom's ButtCam videos are now available on the web 
site for your viewing pleasure. These files are pretty big, so if you are 
on a dialup account, it could take a while to download.
It looks like Eric got a lot of coverage.... humm... he must be making lots 
of money for his sponsors :)

Thanks Dom... great job.
Tony
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From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 22:35:19 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Eric Valencia)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:35:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <001001c4424b$f0439d80$cbb85144@myyhsl5zw1msn2>
References: <052520041017.4214.40B31D220003BBF0000010762158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>
 <001001c4424b$f0439d80$cbb85144@myyhsl5zw1msn2>
Message-ID: <1062.207.106.69.65.1085520919.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com>

LOL!!!  Got you there, Dom!  Anyway, I have off that day and would like to
attend the race. Give me a call and we can arrange to car-pool to Bob and
Judy's.  Anyone else plan on going from the Delaware County area and want
to join us?
Eric Valencia

> Dom,
>
> Is this where someone mentions "gas guzzling SUV's"?
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc




From list@dvbc.org  Wed May 26 00:48:38 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 19:48:38 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
References: <052520041017.4214.40B31D220003BBF0000010762158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>       <001001c4424b$f0439d80$cbb85144@myyhsl5zw1msn2> <1062.207.106.69.65.1085520919.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com>
Message-ID: <000401c442b2$cdab8b40$0a00010a@mycomputer>

    Eric, Dave Hartrum, etc. There will be a ride out of our house at 9:20
that morning. Hope you can join us. Dave, maybe you can ride to our house
from your New Holland base. I'll give you directions if you are interested.
    --Bob LaDrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Valencia" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster


> LOL!!!  Got you there, Dom!  Anyway, I have off that day and would like to
> attend the race. Give me a call and we can arrange to car-pool to Bob and
> Judy's.  Anyone else plan on going from the Delaware County area and want
> to join us?
> Eric Valencia
>
> > Dom,
> >
> > Is this where someone mentions "gas guzzling SUV's"?
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > DVBC mailing list
> > DVBC@list.dvbc.org
> > http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


From list@dvbc.org  Wed May 26 01:43:54 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:43:54 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
In-Reply-To: <000401c442b2$cdab8b40$0a00010a@mycomputer>
References: <052520041017.4214.40B31D220003BBF0000010762158766720FF908F8F8A859290@att.net> <001001c4424b$f0439d80$cbb85144@myyhsl5zw1msn2> <1062.207.106.69.65.1085520919.squirrel@webmail.craftech.com> <000401c442b2$cdab8b40$0a00010a@mycomputer>
Message-ID: 

Can you send me your address or directions again. What kind of a ride 
are you planning? How far, where to, etc

On May 25, 2004, at 7:48 PM, B or J LaDrew wrote:

>     Eric, Dave Hartrum, etc. There will be a ride out of our house at 
> 9:20
> that morning. Hope you can join us. Dave, maybe you can ride to our 
> house
> from your New Holland base. I'll give you directions if you are 
> interested.
>     --Bob LaDrew
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Valencia" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
>
>
>> LOL!!!  Got you there, Dom!  Anyway, I have off that day and would 
>> like to
>> attend the race. Give me a call and we can arrange to car-pool to Bob 
>> and
>> Judy's.  Anyone else plan on going from the Delaware County area and 
>> want
>> to join us?
>> Eric Valencia
>>
>>> Dom,
>>>
>>> Is this where someone mentions "gas guzzling SUV's"?
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> DVBC mailing list
>>> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
>>> http://list.dvbc.org/mailman/listinfo/dvbc
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
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From list@dvbc.org  Wed May 26 09:41:27 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (David Cunicelli)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 04:41:27 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Butt Cam Rocks
Message-ID: 

Dom, 
in it's internet debut, butt cam was a smashing success.  Butt cam seems a
bit harsh for my urbane ears.  Perhaps it needs a less vulgar appelation.
After watching your videos, i vote for the "Eric Cam."  It seemed to be the
only subject your camera was capable of capturing.  Is eric that much more
exciting? a camera hog? or are the rest of us that boring that we got edited
out?

great job.  eric's wife thanks you.  eric's sponsor, iBanesto.com thanks
you, 
david c 

From list@dvbc.org  Tue May 25 12:45:55 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Zuppo, Dominick)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:45:55 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
Message-ID: <1FC5532D6B96D411874200D0B782DA880B1A98AF@phl01-msx-04.ikon.org>

I think you already have, Mr. Bower. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org]On
Behalf Of Douglas Bower
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:32 AM
To: list@dvbc.org
Subject: RE: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster


Dom,

Is this where someone mentions "gas guzzling SUV's"?

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On
Behalf Of domzuppo@att.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 6:17 AM
To: list@dvbc.org
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster


Good morning, everyone.

I've volunteered to help at the Wachovia cycling event in Lancaster, PA
on June 1st. Are any other club members going to the race? Given today's
fuel costs, are you interested in car-pooling? Send me a note if you
are. Thank you!

Dom
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From list@dvbc.org  Thu May 27 03:05:03 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 02:05:03 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] Butt Cam Rocks
Message-ID: <052720040205.15079.40B54CCE0007995300003AE72160383116FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>

Let's see:

Yes - with his sense of style and color coordination, Eric does look good on a bike.
Maybe - he did seem to follow me a lot, considering all the weight I was carrying on my Cannondale.
No - I wouldn't say that you're boring, although all that talk about fancy cheese with Eric Z. is a bit much sometimes.

Next time I bring the DV camera, David, I'll shift to my largest chain ring and try to stay ahead of you. Promise! :-)

Dom


> Dom, 
> in it's internet debut, butt cam was a smashing success.  Butt cam seems a
> bit harsh for my urbane ears.  Perhaps it needs a less vulgar appelation.
> After watching your videos, i vote for the "Eric Cam."  It seemed to be the
> only subject your camera was capable of capturing.  Is eric that much more
> exciting? a camera hog? or are the rest of us that boring that we got edited
> out?
> 
> great job.  eric's wife thanks you.  eric's sponsor, iBanesto.com thanks
> you, 
> david c 
> _______________________________________________
> DVBC mailing list
> DVBC@list.dvbc.org
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From list@dvbc.org  Thu May 27 16:36:15 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:36:15 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
References: 
Message-ID: <002401c44400$59a9b740$0a00010a@mycomputer>

    Frank--
    It will be good to have you ride with us on Tuesday. Right now it looks
like you, Dom, Dave Hartrum, hopefully Jan, Eric Valencia, and me. We will
have hot dogs on the outdoor grill after the ride. The meeting for marshals
is at 2:30 in Lancaster. The race starts at 4:00 and gets over shortly after
7:00.

You need to sign a liability waiver to marshal and I think you can download
one at www.procyclingtour.com

Any other takers?

--Bob LaDrew

Prior message:

Bob
Is your group going to the watch the ride? If so I'd like to join. While I
catch the Wachovia, First Union, Core States every year I've never made
the Lancaster of Trenton event. Sounds fun. Anyway, 9:20 at your house on
Tuesday?
Frank



From list@dvbc.org  Thu May 27 17:20:04 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:20:04 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Wachovia race in Lancaster
Message-ID: <7145374.1085674804443.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com>

Bob, I checked out the location of your house on Yahoo Maps. Should not be a problem for me to get there from New Holland by 9:20. Yahoo puts it at about a 20 mile ride. I think I will have to climb a few nice hills along Rt 322 :-) I think if I leave my Dad's by 7:15 or 7:30 I should be able to meet with your group and ride for a part of your ride. Sorry I will have to miss the hot dogs though. I will have my cell phone with me on the bike so if I run into any delays getting to your place by 9:20 I will call and let you know.

Where do you actually plan to take your group ride?
 
On Thursday, May 27, 2004, at 11:36AM, B or J LaDrew <2ladrews@netreach.net> wrote:

>    Frank--
>    It will be good to have you ride with us on Tuesday. Right now it looks
>like you, Dom, Dave Hartrum, hopefully Jan, Eric Valencia, and me. We will
>have hot dogs on the outdoor grill after the ride. The meeting for marshals
>is at 2:30 in Lancaster. The race starts at 4:00 and gets over shortly after
>7:00.
>
>You need to sign a liability waiver to marshal and I think you can download
>one at www.procyclingtour.com
>
>Any other takers?
>
>--Bob LaDrew
>
>Prior message:
>
>Bob
>Is your group going to the watch the ride? If so I'd like to join. While I
>catch the Wachovia, First Union, Core States every year I've never made
>the Lancaster of Trenton event. Sounds fun. Anyway, 9:20 at your house on
>Tuesday?
>Frank
>
>
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>


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From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 28 02:10:13 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 01:10:13 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] 926
Message-ID: <052820040110.12004.40B691750000849200002EE42200750744CCC0CFC7CE0B0A0A9F9C0A9B0704@comcast.net>

FYI - They re-opened the bridge on 926 today, so expect to see more traffic in that area. 

-Christine

From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 28 11:38:26 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:38:26 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] Happy Memorial Day!
Message-ID: <052820041038.29926.40B716A200018A95000074E62160375964FF908F8F8A859290@att.net>

The summer season is right around the corner. Don't forget your sunblock, insect repellent, and most of all, patience as you head for the Jersey shore, the Poconos, and beyond. And as the son of a Korean War veteran, I hope you'll take a few moments to remember the men and women who served our country in the Armed Forces, both past and present.

To all our DVBC members, family and friends, have a safe and happy Memorial Day holiday!

Dom

From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 28 12:41:44 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (phil morris)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:41:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [DVBC] Sunday Adhoc B ride
Message-ID: <20040528114144.8878.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all

Christine & I will be leading a B paced (15-16 mph) rolling to
slightly hilly 65-70 mile ride starting from the Ridley Creek
State Park main parking lot at 12pm (Noon) this Sunday, May
30th.

We will have cue sheets available for anyone who wants to ride
faster or slower, and I'll wait at corners and hilltops for
people trying to stay with the group.

Any questions please call or e-mail.

-Phil & Christine
morris1638@yahoo.com
610-405-5329


	
		
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From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 28 13:33:30 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (eric zwicky)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:33:30 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] anubody planning a memorial-day ride?
Message-ID: 

excuse please if i have missed any pertinent messages, but i didn't
see where anybody is doing a ride on monday.   if any folks would be
interested in a ride originating in media/rose tree area, going out
west, or maybe up through willistown area,  let me know.     

i'm looking to start no later than 9am and do 40 or so miles at a pace
that affords the opportunity for landscape-gazing and conversation.
if that doesn't appeal to anyone, maybe a shorter ride, balls-out.

pardon mon francais a les dames entre nous.

-eric





From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 28 13:52:37 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:52:37 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Monday Ride
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040528085005.022420e0@pop3.craftech.com>

Meet at Rose Tree Park at 9AM for a ride to Manayunk. Since there is no 
other local rides for Monday, we'll keep this at a B/B+ pace so we can get 
a nice group together.

Tony
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From list@dvbc.org  Fri May 28 14:08:30 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:08:30 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Monday Ride
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040528090749.02243a10@pop3.craftech.com>

Sorry... the ride will be 50 +/- miles.

Tony
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From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 30 01:50:41 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 20:50:41 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] todays ride
Message-ID: <1a0.252420df.2dea89e1@aol.com>

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What a wonderful ride today to Mays Landing. Got some great pace lining in, 
and also some drafting with the help of Edward S.. Even though Ed was told by 
his Dr not to ride that didn't stop him from joining friends and getting his 
pulls in.

Felt really good this week. Looking forward to the rest of the training rides 
along with the 200.  

                                                                              
          Ed Becker

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What a wonderful ride today to Mays Landing. Got some great pace lining=
 in, and also some drafting with the help of Edward S.. Even though Ed was t=
old by his Dr not to ride that didn't stop him from joining friends and gett=
ing his pulls in.


 


Felt really good this week. Looking forward to the rest of the training=
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From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 30 02:23:05 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Edward Sobolewski)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:23:05 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] todays ride
References: <1a0.252420df.2dea89e1@aol.com>
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I hope that my Dr does not see this e-mail; he may wrongly believe that =
I actually rode a bike, although he knows he can not keep me away from =
biking for more than a week.  I had a good time regardless, it was the =
easiest ride I ever had, but one like this is enough.

=20

You guys were awesome; I wish I could take pictures looking backwards =
and still drive without crashing.  I asked Tony to put some of the =
pictures on the website; he should let you know when it is ready.  If =
any of you would like a specific picture but with batter quality that =
the one available on the web, please let me know and I will email you =
the original (and maybe more).

Edward

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com=20
  To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:50 PM
  Subject: [DVBC] todays ride


  What a wonderful ride today to Mays Landing. Got some great pace =
lining in, and also some drafting with the help of Edward S.. Even =
though Ed was told by his Dr not to ride that didn't stop him from =
joining friends and getting his pulls in.

  Felt really good this week. Looking forward to the rest of the =
training rides along with the 200. =20

                                                                         =
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I hope=20
that my Dr does not see this e-mail; he may wrongly believe that I =
actually rode=20
a bike, although he knows he can not keep me away from biking for more =
than a=20
week.  I had a good time =
regardless,=20
it was the easiest ride I ever had, but one like this is =
enough.


 


You=20
guys were awesome; I wish I could take pictures looking backwards and =
still=20
drive without crashing.  I =
asked=20
Tony to put some of the pictures on the website; he should let you know =
when it=20
is ready.  If any of you =
would like=20
a specific picture but with batter quality that the one available on the =
web,=20
please let me know and I will email you the original (and maybe=20
more).


Edward



  
----- Original Message ----- 

  From:=20
  EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com 
  
  
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 =
8:50=20
PM

  
Subject: [DVBC] todays =
ride

  


  
What a wonderful ride today to Mays Landing. Got some great pace =
lining=20
  in, and also some drafting with the help of Edward S.. Even though Ed =
was told=20
  by his Dr not to ride that didn't stop him from joining friends and =
getting=20
  his pulls in.

  
 

  
Felt really good this week. Looking forward to the rest of the =
training=20
  rides along with the 200.  

  
 

  
           =20
              =
   =20
              =
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From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 30 02:49:26 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:49:26 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] todays ride
In-Reply-To: <001f01c445e4$a8f44fa0$0200a8c0@cn104800a>
References: <1a0.252420df.2dea89e1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040529214814.03cffb18@pop3.craftech.com>

The pictures are now on the web. Check them out.

Thanks Ed... the official DVBC photographer strikes again.

Tony



At 09:23 PM 5/29/2004 -0400, you wrote:

>I hope that my Dr does not see this e-mail; he may wrongly believe that I 
>actually rode a bike, although he knows he can not keep me away from 
>biking for more than a week.  I had a good time regardless, it was the 
>easiest ride I ever had, but one like this is enough.
>
>You guys were awesome; I wish I could take pictures looking backwards and 
>still drive without crashing.  I asked Tony to put some of the pictures on 
>the website; he should let you know when it is ready.  If any of you would 
>like a specific picture but with batter quality that the one available on 
>the web, please let me know and I will email you the original (and maybe more).
>
>Edward


------------------------------------------------------------
Antonio Rocha                             Voice 610-566-0980
Craftech Computer Solutions                 Fax 610-566-9340
113 Old State Road                         tony@craftech.com
Media, PA 19063                      http://www.craftech.com
------------------------------------------------------------


From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 30 11:50:25 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (David)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 06:50:25 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] great pictures
Message-ID: 

ed,     
    those are awesome pictures.  you captured the spirit of the ride...like
doug taking a nature break, quite representativve of the many breaks on this
ride.  thanks for being there today. you were a great help and inspiration.

david c


From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 30 13:28:38 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 08:28:38 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Mays Landing ride
Message-ID: 

Great pictures Ed. Thanks for the coverage.

-------------------------------------
Dave Hartrum  WA3YDZ
dhartrum@mac.com
dhartrum@comcast.net
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From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 30 20:22:32 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Larry Green)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 15:22:32 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Mays Landing Ride
Message-ID: <40BA3478.7040608@earthlink.net>

A great day!
My first century in 2 years.
Thanks to Woody and the group for pulling these old bones along and 
tolerating my special stops.
I especially enjoyed the extra 8 miles- just another 92 and the project 
would be complete.
Special thanks to Ed S. for the great photos.
Sign me up for a complete set.

Doc



From list@dvbc.org  Sun May 30 20:49:08 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 15:49:08 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] todays ride
Message-ID: <1e4.21a7de14.2deb94b4@aol.com>

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Ed these pictures are awesome. Thanks again for coming out and joining us, 
you made the ride that much pleasurable along with everyone else. You are 
da'man. ED

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Ed these pictures are awesome. Thanks again for coming out and joining us=
, you made the ride that much pleasurable along with everyone else. You are=20=
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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 31 04:00:33 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Woody Kotch)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 23:00:33 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] todays ride
References: <1a0.252420df.2dea89e1@aol.com> <001f01c445e4$a8f44fa0$0200a8c0@cn104800a>
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Edward,

Thanks so much for showing up for our ride Saturday. You and Dom have =
added a new dimension to our Jersey riding. Hope to see you back in the =
pedals soon. Ocean City next weekend?

Woody
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Edward,


 


Thanks so much for showing up for our ride Saturday. =
You and=20
Dom have added a new dimension to our Jersey riding. Hope to see you =
back in the=20
pedals soon. Ocean City next weekend?


 


Woody


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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 31 12:36:01 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (B or J LaDrew)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 07:36:01 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] RAAM 2004
Message-ID: <001701c44703$737c0c80$0a00010a@mycomputer>

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RAAM 2004 By Perry Stone
Further information and race updates at www.raceacrossamerica.org

Starting, June 20th, 2004 in San Diego, CA, and concluding 2,959 miles=20
later in Atlantic City, NJ, RAAM racers will face 100,000 feet of=20
climbing in a single stage. It's all go.

In the men's solo division, at least a half dozen riders will charge=20
the podium.

In 2003, Washington State's Allen Larsen, 38, rolled out in front of=20
everyone in the early stage of the race and cruised to a 15-hour=20
victory. Allen's 2003 observed that he needed more competition to push=20
himself harder. He got his wish. Austrian Wolfgang Fasching, 36, is=20
arguably the number one ultra rider in the world today. In '97 he won=20
RAAM by seven hours; in 2000, he won by 14 hours; and two years later=20
he won again, this time by 22 hours. He is the one to beat.

2003 RAAM Rookie of the Year, Jure Robic, 38, is a soldier by=20
profession and has also won four Slovenian National Road Championships.=20
He could steal the show. Mr. RAAM, Rob Kish, 49, doesn't have enough=20
fingers to wear all his RAAM rings. Kish is the smartest rider in the=20
race. This 18-time finisher and three time winner of RAAM personifies=20
the ultra endurance cyclist. He (along with Fasching) can be the first=20
man to win four RAAMs. Two-time Slovenian Olympian, Valter Bonca, has=20
amassed 105 victories in 1,365 international races, as well as four=20
years professional racing in the Giro d'Italia and World Cup races.=20
With over 535,000 kilometers on his speedometer, this "rookie" can=20
shake up the leader board. Switzerland's Pius "the Animal" Achermann,=20
recently rode 1,040 kilometers in 24 hours, on a set of rollers - a=20
world champion effort. Look for him to attack and attack.

Some of the leading contenders in the 20 multi-rider teams are vying=20
for new speed records.

Team Action Sports appears to be the team to beat, but many others ride=20
to challenge for over all victory in the 4-person relay division.=20
Comprised of Kerry Ryan, Nat Faulkner, Kerry Classen and Sean Nealy,=20
Action Sports looks solid. Team captain Kerry Ryan and his assembled=20
team seeks to capture the overall speed record. England's RAF, two time=20
RAAM winners, are back for victory. Top "mates" from England these=20
racers are familiar with performing under pressure - another serious=20
contender. Team Vail Go-Fast, race this year in honor of their fallen=20
teammate, Brett Malin. These emotional favorites are dedicated ultra=20
cyclists with the power, experience and strength to upset Team Action=20
Sports. Team Extra Distance from Brazil is riding high on national=20
pride. Ultra riding is gaining recognition in this South American=20
country and this 4-person team represents their best. Team Swiss Canon=20
is comprised of highly accomplished athletes. With all riders aged in=20
their early to mid 30's, canon may go off. For the first time RAAM, we=20
have 2, 4-person female teams. Team Vail B2B Divas will ride off=20
against Germany's own Team Frauleins.

RAAM has grown in 23 years from four riders to 99 this year, attracting=20
an international field of competitors. If ever, there was a sport that=20
wasn't but deserved to be included in the Olympic Games, it is the=20
extreme discipline of ultra marathon cycling. Nowhere in the vast=20
sporting world is there a more definitive demonstration of the strength=20
inherent in the human spirit. Endurance cycling gave us the Grand Tours=20
of road racing and it directly influenced the creation of Le Tour de=20
France. Each rider's individual campaign is stacked against all odds.=20
When a cyclist rolls up to the start of a race that last not hours but=20
weeks, when the finish line is not across town or even across state but=20
across an entire nation, each man or women faces a challenge that in=20
theory they can not win. Yet, there are few losers.

The glory goes to the victors but pride and respect goes to all. For=20
those that have been fortunate enough to witness it, you find yourself=20
hard pressed not to shed a tear watching a man or a woman cross the=20
finish line two or three days after the winner. Usually incapable of=20
standing unaided, it is an effort even to smile. Yet, they continued to=20
fight on when every fiber of their being demanded that they quit. When=20
one mile seemed like 20, when dirt, sweat and sunscreen cover their=20
blisters and bruises, when almost everything except breathing hurt,=20
they held steadfast in their belief that quitting is not an option.=20
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Further information and race updates at =
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Starting,=20
June 20th, 2004 in San Diego, CA, and concluding 2,959 miles 
later =
in=20
Atlantic City, NJ, RAAM racers will face 100,000 feet of 
climbing in =
a=20
single stage. It's all go.

In the men's solo division, at least a =
half=20
dozen riders will charge 
the podium.

In 2003, Washington =
State's=20
Allen Larsen, 38, rolled out in front of 
everyone in the early stage =
of the=20
race and cruised to a 15-hour 
victory. Allen's 2003 observed that he =
needed=20
more competition to push 
himself harder. He got his wish. Austrian =
Wolfgang=20
Fasching, 36, is 
arguably the number one ultra rider in the world =
today. In=20
'97 he won 
RAAM by seven hours; in 2000, he won by 14 hours; and two =
years=20
later 
he won again, this time by 22 hours. He is the one to=20
beat.

2003 RAAM Rookie of the Year, Jure Robic, 38, is a soldier =
by=20

profession and has also won four Slovenian National Road =
Championships.=20

He could steal the show. Mr. RAAM, Rob Kish, 49, doesn't have enough =


fingers to wear all his RAAM rings. Kish is the smartest rider in =
the=20

race. This 18-time finisher and three time winner of RAAM =
personifies=20

the ultra endurance cyclist. He (along with Fasching) can be the =
first=20

man to win four RAAMs. Two-time Slovenian Olympian, Valter Bonca, =
has=20

amassed 105 victories in 1,365 international races, as well as four=20

years professional racing in the Giro d'Italia and World Cup races. =

With=20
over 535,000 kilometers on his speedometer, this "rookie" can 
shake =
up the=20
leader board. Switzerland's Pius "the Animal" Achermann, 
recently =
rode 1,040=20
kilometers in 24 hours, on a set of rollers - a 
world champion =
effort. Look=20
for him to attack and attack.

Some of the leading contenders in =
the 20=20
multi-rider teams are vying 
for new speed records.

Team =
Action Sports=20
appears to be the team to beat, but many others ride 
to challenge =
for over=20
all victory in the 4-person relay division. 
Comprised of Kerry Ryan, =
Nat=20
Faulkner, Kerry Classen and Sean Nealy, 
Action Sports looks solid. =
Team=20
captain Kerry Ryan and his assembled 
team seeks to capture the =
overall speed=20
record. England's RAF, two time 
RAAM winners, are back for victory. =
Top=20
"mates" from England these 
racers are familiar with performing under =

pressure - another serious 
contender. Team Vail Go-Fast, race this =
year in=20
honor of their fallen 
teammate, Brett Malin. These emotional =
favorites are=20
dedicated ultra 
cyclists with the power, experience and strength to =
upset=20
Team Action 
Sports. Team Extra Distance from Brazil is riding high =
on=20
national 
pride. Ultra riding is gaining recognition in this South =
American=20

country and this 4-person team represents their best. Team Swiss =
Canon=20

is comprised of highly accomplished athletes. With all riders aged =
in=20

their early to mid 30's, canon may go off. For the first time RAAM, =
we=20

have 2, 4-person female teams. Team Vail B2B Divas will ride off =

against=20
Germany's own Team Frauleins.

RAAM has grown in 23 years from =
four riders=20
to 99 this year, attracting 
an international field of competitors. =
If ever,=20
there was a sport that 
wasn't but deserved to be included in the =
Olympic=20
Games, it is the 
extreme discipline of ultra marathon cycling. =
Nowhere in=20
the vast 
sporting world is there a more definitive demonstration of =
the=20
strength 
inherent in the human spirit. Endurance cycling gave us the =
Grand=20
Tours 
of road racing and it directly influenced the creation of Le =
Tour de=20

France. Each rider's individual campaign is stacked against all =
odds.=20

When a cyclist rolls up to the start of a race that last not hours =
but=20

weeks, when the finish line is not across town or even across state =
but=20

across an entire nation, each man or women faces a challenge that in =


theory they can not win. Yet, there are few losers.

The glory =
goes to=20
the victors but pride and respect goes to all. For 
those that have =
been=20
fortunate enough to witness it, you find yourself 
hard pressed not =
to shed a=20
tear watching a man or a woman cross the 
finish line two or three =
days after=20
the winner. Usually incapable of 
standing unaided, it is an effort =
even to=20
smile. Yet, they continued to 
fight on when every fiber of their =
being=20
demanded that they quit. When 
one mile seemed like 20, when dirt, =
sweat and=20
sunscreen cover their 
blisters and bruises, when almost everything =
except=20
breathing hurt, 
they held steadfast in their belief that quitting is =
not an=20
option. 
True pride and guts - John Wayne =
style.



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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 31 18:47:23 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:47:23 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] memorial day ride
Message-ID: <12a.42c8575d.2decc9ab@aol.com>

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Hello All, 

    Hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day. We had a nice ride that 
Tony lead out of Rose Tree to Mannyunk. While in Mannyunk at the coffee shop the 
Saeco team walks in. It just so happened that Tony was wearing his Saeco gear. 
When Tony walked out of the bathroom he was suprised by a friendly hug from 
one of the riders. Ed S. I wish you were there with your camera because that 
was a million dollar shot.

    Got a little wet on the way home, but no one melted. 

    That ride finished out my month with 1,070 miles. I enjoyed every one of 
them!


                                                                              
                      Ed Becker

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Hello All, 


 


    Hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day. We had=
 a nice ride that Tony lead out of Rose Tree to Mannyunk. While in Mannyunk=20=
at the coffee shop the Saeco team walks in. It just so happened that Tony wa=
s wearing his Saeco gear. When Tony walked out of the bathroom he was supris=
ed by a friendly hug from one of the riders. Ed S. I wish you were there wit=
h your camera because that was a million dollar shot.


 


    Got a little wet on the way home, but no one melted.=
 


 


    That ride finished out my month with 1,070 miles. I=20=
enjoyed every one of them!


 


 


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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 31 19:29:47 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Edward Sobolewski)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:29:47 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] memorial day ride
References: <12a.42c8575d.2decc9ab@aol.com>
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I wish I were there too; I am dying here.  It feels like all the energy =
is slowly draining out of my body, or is it just a blood dripping from =
my nose?  Or maybe the antibiotic the doctor proscribed makes me feel =
week, or just maybe my brain can not cope with the simple fact that I =
can not ride my bike for few days.  I hope Ira does not tell on me, he =
caught me doing a little ride yesterday.  I tried, it was pitiful but I =
didn't dye.

Edward

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com=20
  To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org=20
  Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:47 PM
  Subject: [DVBC] memorial day ride


  Hello All,=20

      Hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day. We had a nice ride =
that Tony lead out of Rose Tree to Mannyunk. While in Mannyunk at the =
coffee shop the Saeco team walks in. It just so happened that Tony was =
wearing his Saeco gear. When Tony walked out of the bathroom he was =
suprised by a friendly hug from one of the riders. Ed S. I wish you were =
there with your camera because that was a million dollar shot.

      Got a little wet on the way home, but no one melted.=20

      That ride finished out my month with 1,070 miles. I enjoyed every =
one of them!


                                                                         =
                             Ed Becker
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I wish=20
I were there too; I am dying here. =20
It feels like all the energy is slowly draining out of my body, =
or is it=20
just a blood dripping from my nose? =20
Or maybe the antibiotic the doctor proscribed makes me feel week, =
or just=20
maybe my brain can not cope with the simple fact that I can not ride my =
bike for=20
few days.  I hope Ira does =
not tell=20
on me, he caught me doing a little ride yesterday.  I tried, it was pitiful but I =
didn=92t=20
dye.


Edward



  
----- Original Message ----- 

  From:=20
  EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com 
  
  
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:47 =
PM

  
Subject: [DVBC] memorial day =
ride

  


  
Hello All, 

  
 

  
    Hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day. =
We had a=20
  nice ride that Tony lead out of Rose Tree to Mannyunk. While in =
Mannyunk at=20
  the coffee shop the Saeco team walks in. It just so happened that Tony =
was=20
  wearing his Saeco gear. When Tony walked out of the bathroom he was =
suprised=20
  by a friendly hug from one of the riders. Ed S. I wish you were there =
with=20
  your camera because that was a million dollar shot.

  
 

  
    Got a little wet on the way home, but no one =
melted.=20
  

  
 

  
    That ride finished out my month with 1,070 =
miles. I=20
  enjoyed every one of them!

  
 

  
 

  
           =20
              =
   =20
              =
   =20
              =
   =20
              =
   =20
              =
   =20
          Ed =
Becker


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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 31 19:37:07 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (list@dvbc.org)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:37:07 EDT
Subject: [DVBC] memorial day ride
Message-ID: <12f.42e6b45f.2decd553@aol.com>

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Don't worry Ed we will keep your secret and not tell your Doc. 

Word has it that Bob Leon went on the Kountry Kitchen ride. That is wonderful 
news!

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Don't worry Ed we will keep your secret and not tell your Doc. 


 


Word has it that Bob Leon went on the Kountry Kitchen ride. That is won=
derful news!


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From list@dvbc.org  Mon May 31 19:54:24 2004
From: list@dvbc.org (Edward Sobolewski)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:54:24 -0400
Subject: [DVBC] Kountry Kitchen
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That is great news in deed, way to go Bob.

Edward


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  From: EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com=20
  To: list@dvbc.org=20
  Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 2:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [DVBC] memorial day ride


  Don't worry Ed we will keep your secret and not tell your Doc.=20

  Word has it that Bob Leon went on the Kountry Kitchen ride. That is =
wonderful news!
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That is=20
great news in deed, way to go Bob.


Edward


 



  
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  EDBECKERSTAR@aol.com 
  
  
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Subject: Re: [DVBC] memorial =
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  ride

  


  
Don't worry Ed we will keep your secret and not tell your Doc. =


  
 

  
Word has it that Bob Leon went on the Kountry Kitchen ride. That =
is=20
  wonderful news!


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