The year-end wrap-up that Rich =
Alejandre=20
submitted is a reminder to me that you don't have to include a mileage =
total in=20
order to summarize the past riding year. Those of you who do not count =
miles can=20
still send in your 2003 riding summary. Send them to me at 2ladrews@netreach.net
--Bob LaDrew
P.S.: So far I have them from Ed =
Becker,=20
David Cunicelli, Ira Josephs, Glenn Davis, Phil Morris, and Rich=20
Alejandre.
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sat Jan 3 03:18:28 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 22:18:28 EST
Subject: [DVBC] Saurday ride...
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Hello All,
Looking at the weather tomorrow, it's looking like another spring day. I
have a ride starting at Ridley Creek State Park riding the loop. Anyone
interested depending on who shows I'll be willing to expand the ride further as I
probably won't mind riding all day. Call me, meet me at AM or meet me somewhere
on the loop.
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sat Jan 3 15:43:23 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Javier Pazos)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 10:43:23 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Home Brewing
Message-ID: <3FF6E31B.5000809@verizon.net>
I got a beer machine for Christmas. Obviously from someone who doesn't
know me very well since I abhor the evil substance. But in order to not
insult my benefactor, I feel obliged to concoct some
carbo-loading/recovery drinks. I was just wondering if any of you club
members who have experience brewing the vile potion have any words of
wisdom for me.
Thank you,
Javier
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sat Jan 3 16:27:16 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (David Bennett)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:27:16 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Home Brewing
References: <3FF6E31B.5000809@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <3FF6ED64.9C44A9F5@craftech.com>
Javier,
Like you, I of course abhor the substance. If you would like to have your
product scientifically tested before you taste it, drop off a sample at my
laboratory here in Lansdowne. It takes at least a gallon in order to get a
thorough result. This service is free to you because you are my friend.
D'ster, Freelance Scientist
Lansdowne Labs inc.
ps/ This catagory of carbo loading is reccommended for recovery only.
DON'T use this product for carbo- loading before a ride. (A public service
announcement from Lansdowne Labs inc.)
Javier Pazos wrote:
> I got a beer machine for Christmas. Obviously from someone who doesn't
> know me very well since I abhor the evil substance. But in order to not
> insult my benefactor, I feel obliged to concoct some
> carbo-loading/recovery drinks. I was just wondering if any of you club
> members who have experience brewing the vile potion have any words of
> wisdom for me.
>
> Thank you,
> Javier
>
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sun Jan 4 23:27:12 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Javier Pazos)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:27:12 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Bad news Lance fans
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from lancearmstrong.com :
1/4 ~ Here's a quick heads up: Lance will not be able to attend the next
President's Cancer Panel being held Monday, Jan 5 in Philadelphia, PA.
While Lance can't be there, we strongly enourage everyone who can to
attend the event, titled "Living Beyond Cancer: Meeting the Challenges
of Older Adult Survivors" at the Loew's Philadelphia Hotel.
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from lancearmstrong.com :
1/4 ~ Here's a quick heads up: Lance will not be able to attend the
next President's Cancer Panel being held Monday, Jan 5 in Philadelphia, PA.
While Lance can't be there, we strongly enourage everyone who can to attend
the event, titled "Living Beyond Cancer: Meeting the Challenges of Older
Adult Survivors" at the Loew's Philadelphia Hotel.
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Mon Jan 5 14:18:14 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Homan, Walter C.)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:18:14 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Home Brewing
Message-ID: <303AEA1D4EB56A4F9DEC98E330625B8E1A5EA3@wil-mail-01.wtcnt.wtc.com>
And, to detect any aural or visual perceptual distortions, I'd highly recommended having the unfortunate subjects view a TdF DVD while testing this evil concoction.
-----Original Message-----
Javier,
Like you, I of course abhor the substance. If you would like to have your
product scientifically tested
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Mon Jan 5 14:52:38 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Chaga, Debra)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:52:38 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Bad news Lance fans
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Javier,
Let's hope Lance doesn't miss too many more things this year. I'm a little
worried that if he keeps hanging out with Cheryl Crow and the rock star
crowd he'll lose his edge in the tour.
By the way, how was your hill clinic yesterday? I'm sorry I wasn't able to
make it but look forward to a future clinic. Any tips you can give me to
climb faster and easier will be most welcome.
Debbie
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from lancearmstrong.com :
1/4 ~ Here's a quick heads up: Lance will not be able to attend the next
President's Cancer Panel being held Monday, Jan 5 in Philadelphia, PA. While
Lance can't be there, we strongly enourage everyone who can to attend the
event, titled "Living Beyond Cancer: Meeting the Challenges of Older Adult
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Javier,
Let's
hope Lance doesn't miss too many more things this year. I'm a little
worried that if he keeps hanging out with Cheryl Crow and the rock star crowd
he'll lose his edge in the tour.
By the
way, how was your hill clinic yesterday? I'm sorry I wasn't able to make
it but look forward to a future clinic. Any tips you can give me
to climb faster and easier will be most welcome.
Debbie
-----Original Message-----
From:
dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On Behalf Of
Javier Pazos
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 6:27 PM
To:
dvbc@list.dvbc.org
Subject: [DVBC] Bad news Lance
fans
from lancearmstrong.com :
1/4
~ Here's a quick heads up: Lance will not be able to attend the next
President's Cancer Panel being held Monday, Jan 5 in Philadelphia, PA. While
Lance can't be there, we strongly enourage everyone who can to attend the
event, titled "Living Beyond Cancer: Meeting the Challenges of Older Adult
Survivors" at the Loew's Philadelphia
Hotel.
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Tue Jan 6 01:24:06 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Woody Kotch)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:24:06 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Bike Virginia
References: <16253751.1073058526632.JavaMail.dhartrum@mac.com>
Message-ID: <002101c3d3f3$c87c2a40$0b02a8c0@WorkGroup>
> Thanks Doug, I missed that point. The only one I have heard back from for
sure is you. Guess we better give up the team idea and register as
individuals. Maybe we can still generate some interest within the club but
not be able to take advantage of the team discount. It may be too early for
many to commit to something like this. There are a couple of people I work
with that I am trying to get interested also.
>
Dave and Doug,
Bike Virgina is starting to sound good to me. Were you planing on camping or
moteling? I'm definately going the roof over my head route.
Woody
>
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Tue Jan 6 01:47:00 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Douglas Bower)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:47:00 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Bike Virginia
In-Reply-To: <002101c3d3f3$c87c2a40$0b02a8c0@WorkGroup>
Message-ID: <000001c3d3f6$fade3cf0$cd265444@myyhsl5zw1msn2>
Woody,
Glad to see you are interested in Bike Florida. I am planning to camp
(no surprise there) but it will be fun to have you along even if you are
in a nice cool dry hotel room. Just keep the door unlocked if it rains
:).
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org [mailto:dvbc-admin@list.dvbc.org] On
Behalf Of Woody Kotch
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:24 PM
To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org
Subject: Re: [DVBC] Bike Virginia
> Thanks Doug, I missed that point. The only one I have heard back from
> for
sure is you. Guess we better give up the team idea and register as
individuals. Maybe we can still generate some interest within the club
but not be able to take advantage of the team discount. It may be too
early for many to commit to something like this. There are a couple of
people I work with that I am trying to get interested also.
>
Dave and Doug,
Bike Virgina is starting to sound good to me. Were you planing on
camping or moteling? I'm definately going the roof over my head route.
Woody
>
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Wed Jan 7 01:35:55 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 01:35:55 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] track bike wanted
Message-ID: <010720040135.6514.3c2c@comcast.net>
Hi out there! Anyone have an used single or fixed gear "track" bike they want to get rid of cheap? I'm looking for a winter trainer; I'm 5'10". Also, any advice on these one speed bikes would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
--
30 Duttonview Dr.,
Aston, PA. 19014
610-497-0841
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Tue Jan 6 03:14:33 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Javier Pazos)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 22:14:33 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Bad news Lance fans
Message-ID: <3FFA2819.7020308@verizon.net>
Debbie,
Two people showed up for the clinic, but it went well. I think everyone
took away something positive from it. Afterwards we went for a short
(~25 mile) ride. I'll be holding three more and look forward to seeing
you at them.
As for Lance, I agree with you that this is becoming a big problem. I
know, speaking from experience, that hanging out with that crowd can
really hamper your athletic performance. I've been down that road of
rock & roll debauchery myself. Of course for me it was flat-broke
deadheads instead of filthy rich rock stars. And I guess I'm not quite
the athlete that Lance is. But other than those little points, it's
basically the same thing. I know just what Lance is going through.
Javier
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Wed Jan 7 14:18:47 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Homan, Walter C.)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:18:47 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Bad news Lance fans
Message-ID: <303AEA1D4EB56A4F9DEC98E330625B8E1A5EB6@wil-mail-01.wtcnt.wtc.com>
Well, in addition to increasingly stiff competition, being 1 year older, and the weight of history, Lance's New! & Improved! lifestyle sounds like one more thing to prevent him from winning that mythical sixth Tour. I don't expect it to happen.
Did you hear? This year, Alpe d'Huez is gonna be a time trial! I believe there is to be no TT's in the 1st...2 weeks? Should be a real cliff-hanger.
"Rock & Roll debauchery"? Cool...I'll sign up for that clinic!
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Wed Jan 7 17:51:20 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Drew Knox)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:51:20 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] track bike wanted
Message-ID: <8690E31BE4D6FF4F95A3179139A8E2361F5C92@exton10.bentley.com>
I bought a used Serotta track bike primarily for winter riding on the
trainer and rollers. Thought the fixed-gear riding would be a cool cross
between riding a spinning bike and one with a freewheel. However, I didn't
like riding the track nearly as much as my old road bike -- starting and
stopping was annoying, so was changing the load, and there was no noticeable
improvement in rounding out my pedal stroke. After a while, I just left it
hanging in the garage. Eventually, though it looked cool on the wall, I sold
it at a substantial loss having put only a hundred and fifty miles on it.
Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: ARUIGROK@comcast.net [mailto:ARUIGROK@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:36 PM
To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org
Subject: [DVBC] track bike wanted
Hi out there! Anyone have an used single or fixed gear "track" bike they
want to get rid of cheap? I'm looking for a winter trainer; I'm 5'10". Also,
any advice on these one speed bikes would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
--
30 Duttonview Dr.,
Aston, PA. 19014
610-497-0841
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Wed Jan 7 19:18:54 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 19:18:54 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] RE: track bike wanted
Message-ID: <010720041918.6758.1c91@comcast.net>
> I bought a used Serotta track bike primarily for winter riding on the
> trainer and rollers. Thought the fixed-gear riding would be a cool cross
> between riding a spinning bike and one with a freewheel. However, I didn't
> like riding the track nearly as much as my old road bike -- starting and
> stopping was annoying, so was changing the load, and there was no noticeable
> improvement in rounding out my pedal stroke. After a while, I just left it
> hanging in the garage. Eventually, though it looked cool on the wall, I sold
> it at a substantial loss having put only a hundred and fifty miles on it.
>
> Drew
Heresy! Don't listen to him! Seriously, let's agree to make a distinction between a true track bike and a fixed gear road bike. A track bike has short wheelbase and steep head tube and seat tube angles, both of which can combine to make steering twitchy. A fixed gear road bike can be an old road frame with horizontal dropouts with the back wheel converted. Old freewheel equipped bikes are great for this as freewheels and track cogs use the same threading. Starting and stopping a fixed gear bike is different than a geared bike but can be learned with practice. I'm no great rider but I learned. Anyway, if you want to try one (or two) I have two fixed gear road bikes for sale and test rides are available. Email me for details and digital pictures if you are interested.
Regards,
Pete "Keep spinning!" LaVerghetta
Cheltenham, PA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARUIGROK@comcast.net [mailto:ARUIGROK@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:36 PM
> To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org
> Subject: [DVBC] track bike wanted
>
>
> Hi out there! Anyone have an used single or fixed gear "track" bike they
> want to get rid of cheap? I'm looking for a winter trainer; I'm 5'10". Also,
> any advice on these one speed bikes would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
>
>
> --
> 30 Duttonview Dr.,
> Aston, PA. 19014
> 610-497-0841
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Wed Jan 7 21:51:19 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Drew Knox)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:51:19 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] RE: track bike wanted
Message-ID: <8690E31BE4D6FF4F95A3179139A8E236626DE0@exton10.bentley.com>
Hey Pete, I want to quibble about your definition of a track bike as being
twitchy. T'ain't necessarily so. It depends on the type of track event, such
as keirin vs pursuit, for which the bike was designed as to how tight the
angles are. In any case, my track bike was stable enough to easily ride
no-hands on the road and the front-end handling didn't make it any harder to
ride on the rollers. My point was that I just didn't see any benefit -- even
on a trainer -- to having only one gear that couldn't coast.
Maybe you could talk about why you find that interesting.
-----Original Message-----
From: petelav@comcast.net [mailto:petelav@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:19 PM
To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org
Subject: [DVBC] RE: track bike wanted
> I bought a used Serotta track bike primarily for winter riding on the
> trainer and rollers. Thought the fixed-gear riding would be a cool cross
> between riding a spinning bike and one with a freewheel. However, I didn't
> like riding the track nearly as much as my old road bike -- starting and
> stopping was annoying, so was changing the load, and there was no
noticeable
> improvement in rounding out my pedal stroke. After a while, I just left it
> hanging in the garage. Eventually, though it looked cool on the wall, I
sold
> it at a substantial loss having put only a hundred and fifty miles on it.
>
> Drew
Heresy! Don't listen to him! Seriously, let's agree to make a distinction
between a true track bike and a fixed gear road bike. A track bike has short
wheelbase and steep head tube and seat tube angles, both of which can
combine to make steering twitchy. A fixed gear road bike can be an old road
frame with horizontal dropouts with the back wheel converted. Old freewheel
equipped bikes are great for this as freewheels and track cogs use the same
threading. Starting and stopping a fixed gear bike is different than a
geared bike but can be learned with practice. I'm no great rider but I
learned. Anyway, if you want to try one (or two) I have two fixed gear road
bikes for sale and test rides are available. Email me for details and
digital pictures if you are interested.
Regards,
Pete "Keep spinning!" LaVerghetta
Cheltenham, PA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARUIGROK@comcast.net [mailto:ARUIGROK@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:36 PM
> To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org
> Subject: [DVBC] track bike wanted
>
>
> Hi out there! Anyone have an used single or fixed gear "track" bike they
> want to get rid of cheap? I'm looking for a winter trainer; I'm 5'10".
Also,
> any advice on these one speed bikes would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
>
>
> --
> 30 Duttonview Dr.,
> Aston, PA. 19014
> 610-497-0841
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Wed Jan 7 23:23:20 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (David)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:23:20 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] track bike
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Don't listen to Drew! Listen to Pete. Fixed gear riding is more fun. Who
cares about the benifts, ie climbing better, better smoother pedal stroke,
stronger legs, quicker acceleration, better bike handling, more bike
awareness. it is hands down the coolest riding. the stopping thing is not
a drag if you put brakes on it. the starting thing is a bit tricky for 2 or
3 times. everything in between is bicyle nirvana. just you, one gear, the
silence of no derailleur, and the open road. hills become challenges both
physical and mental. downhills become an even bigger challenge than the
uphill portion. it is pure fun. take up pete on his offer. try it out.
ask anyone in the club who rides one and you will get an overwhelmingly
positive response.
i got mine at cycle fit in wallingford. it's a road fixie, essentially a
low-end track bike. they have a few down there for a reasonable price.
david cunicelli
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Don't listen to Drew! Listen to Pete. Fixed gear riding is more f=
un. Who cares about the benifts, ie climbing better, better smooth=
er pedal stroke, stronger legs, quicker acceleration, better bike handling, =
more bike awareness. it is hands down the coolest riding. the st=
opping thing is not a drag if you put brakes on it. the starting thing=
is a bit tricky for 2 or 3 times. everything in between is bicyle nir=
vana. just you, one gear, the silence of no derailleur, and the open r=
oad. hills become challenges both physical and mental. downhills=
become an even bigger challenge than the uphill portion. it is pure f=
un. take up pete on his offer. try it out. ask anyone in the clu=
b who rides one and you will get an overwhelmingly positive response.
i got mine at cycle fit in wallingford. it's a road fixie, essentiall=
y a low-end track bike. they have a few down there for a reasonable pr=
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david cunicelli
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Wed Jan 7 23:24:59 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Pete LaVerghetta)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:24:59 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] RE: track bikes
In-Reply-To: <8690E31BE4D6FF4F95A3179139A8E236626DE0@exton10.bentley.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c3d575$78830c10$8be85044@DD0LV321>
Why do I love one gear and can't coast? Easy, no thinking involved! The
part of my brain that usually obsesses over whether I am in the optimum
gear is free to do other stuff like enjoy the scenery, smell those
lovely farmy smells, bug my fellow riders...
Some people talk about a Zen-like state. I don't want to get all cosmic
on you, but I just love it. Simple and fun.
Regards,
Pete "more beers less gears" LaVerghetta
> Hey Pete, I want to quibble about your definition of a track bike as
being
> twitchy. T'ain't necessarily so. It depends on the type of track
event,
> such
> as keirin vs pursuit, for which the bike was designed as to how tight
the
> angles are. In any case, my track bike was stable enough to easily
ride
> no-hands on the road and the front-end handling didn't make it any
harder
> to
> ride on the rollers. My point was that I just didn't see any benefit
--
> even
> on a trainer -- to having only one gear that couldn't coast.
>
> Maybe you could talk about why you find that interesting.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: petelav@comcast.net [mailto:petelav@comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:19 PM
> To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org
> Subject: [DVBC] RE: track bike wanted
>
>
> > I bought a used Serotta track bike primarily for winter riding on
the
> > trainer and rollers. Thought the fixed-gear riding would be a cool
cross
> > between riding a spinning bike and one with a freewheel. However, I
> didn't
> > like riding the track nearly as much as my old road bike -- starting
and
> > stopping was annoying, so was changing the load, and there was no
> noticeable
> > improvement in rounding out my pedal stroke. After a while, I just
left
> it
> > hanging in the garage. Eventually, though it looked cool on the
wall, I
> sold
> > it at a substantial loss having put only a hundred and fifty miles
on
> it.
> >
> > Drew
>
> Heresy! Don't listen to him! Seriously, let's agree to make a
distinction
> between a true track bike and a fixed gear road bike. A track bike has
> short
> wheelbase and steep head tube and seat tube angles, both of which can
> combine to make steering twitchy. A fixed gear road bike can be an old
> road
> frame with horizontal dropouts with the back wheel converted. Old
> freewheel
> equipped bikes are great for this as freewheels and track cogs use the
> same
> threading. Starting and stopping a fixed gear bike is different than a
> geared bike but can be learned with practice. I'm no great rider but
I
> learned. Anyway, if you want to try one (or two) I have two fixed gear
> road
> bikes for sale and test rides are available. Email me for details and
> digital pictures if you are interested.
>
> Regards,
> Pete "Keep spinning!" LaVerghetta
> Cheltenham, PA
> >
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Thu Jan 8 03:02:33 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Ann Martha)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:02:33 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Bad news Lance fans
In-Reply-To: <303AEA1D4EB56A4F9DEC98E330625B8E1A5EB6@wil-mail-01.wtcnt.w
tc.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040107215443.03247378@mail.phila.k12.pa.us>
Le Tour has been designed for Heras or another lightweight climber. The
last time Huez had a TT, about 10 years ago, the winner was Berzins -- a
little Russian rider who was 5'3" tall and weighed about 106 lbs.
At 09:18 AM 1/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, in addition to increasingly stiff competition, being 1 year older,
>and the weight of history, Lance's New! & Improved! lifestyle sounds like
>one more thing to prevent him from winning that mythical sixth Tour. I
>don't expect it to happen.
>
>Did you hear? This year, Alpe d'Huez is gonna be a time trial! I
>believe there is to be no TT's in the 1st...2 weeks? Should be a real
>cliff-hanger.
>
>
>"Rock & Roll debauchery"? Cool...I'll sign up for that clinic!
>
>
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Thu Jan 8 13:40:53 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Ellen Refused)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:40:53 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] MLSC trip
Message-ID:
FYI for all DVBC skiiers out there:
FW: From Valley Forge Walkers
Attention all Walkers and hopefully Skiers! Now that the weather is finally getting cold, it's time to make plans to ski! A trip you don't want to miss is this one.....And the deadline to sign up is January 12!
It's Main Line Ski Club's last trip of the season...3 1/2 days skiing (downhill or cross country!) at Sunday River, Maine....March 24-28! We're flying in, staying slope-side, have bus transfers and lift tickets included; and it's only $649 per person even if you're not a member of MLSC!
If you don't want to ski downhill, you can ski cross-country; a free shuttle takes you out to some terrific terrain right nearby.
Plus there are pre-and post trip parties at the Trip Leaders' house....and wine and cheese parties on site.
And this one time only, you don't have to be a member of MLSC to come and there is no extra guest fee; just the total trip cost of $649.
Again, the deadline to sign up is January 12 (with your deposit of $200).
So don't delay! Sign up today...and plan ahead to close out the ski season on New England's most dependable snow and Party Hearty with MLSC!
For more info, call Kathleen! And get that deposit check in NOW!
Kathleen & Howard Weisz
MLSC Trip Leaders
Sunday River
1210 Winthrop Circle
West Chester, PA 19380
610-918-1129 (O)
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E-mail: kqweisz@aol.com
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Thu Jan 8 17:34:35 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 12:34:35 EST
Subject: [DVBC] track bike
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After reading your email David, I think I might have to try a fixed gear out
and possibly make one an addition to my current 6 bikes.
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After reading your email David, I think I might have to try a fixed gear=20=
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Thu Jan 8 20:29:00 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:29:00 EST
Subject: [DVBC] 'more beers less gears'
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In a message dated 1/8/04 6:38:33 AM, dvbc-request@list.dvbc.org writes:
> Some people talk about a Zen-like state. I don't want to get all cosmic on=
=20
> you, but I just love it.=A0 Simple and fun.
>=20
> Regards, Pete "more beers less gears" LaVerghetta
>=20
enjoying this thread.... only hoping it's not just the beers talking.... :-)=
=20
joel
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Some people talk abou=
t a Zen-like state. I don't want to get all cosmic on you, but I just love i=
t.=A0 Simple and fun.
Regards, Pete "more beers less gears" LaVerghetta
enjoying this thread.... only hoping it's not just the beers talking....=20=
:-) joel
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Fri Jan 9 12:13:56 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (phil morris)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:13:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DVBC] Sat ride cancelled
Message-ID: <20040109121356.15330.qmail@web41002.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi all,
After desperately hoping for a change in forecast, with
tomorrows weather predicted to have a low of 11 and high of 22,
I am going to have to cancel my Phil's Phollies ride.
Do something WARM - drink hot chocolate in front of a roaring
fire for instance :-)
-PhilM
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Fri Jan 9 13:28:07 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:28:07 EST
Subject: [DVBC] Sat ride cancelled
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Hi Phil,
Even though I have to work tomorrow at 11, I was going to maybe ride with
you for a little bit. Well, I'll still be heading out for a little loop
probably around 9ish. Got a new pair of Triflex tights and a balaclava from
Performance that I need to break in. Hopefully catch you on Sunday. I will probably
be riding with Tony's group.
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Even though I have to work tomorrow at 11, I was goi=
ng to maybe ride with you for a little bit. Well, I'll still be heading out=20=
for a little loop probably around 9ish. Got a new pair of Triflex tights and=
a balaclava from Performance that I need to break in. Hopefully catch you o=
n Sunday. I will probably be riding with Tony's group.
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Fri Jan 9 19:57:14 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:57:14 EST
Subject: [DVBC] track bike
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Ed, Which of your bikes enables you to ride the fastest? Glenn
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Fri Jan 9 20:00:06 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:00:06 EST
Subject: [DVBC] track bike
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That would be definitely be the bike that I took on your ride last week.=20=
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Fri Jan 9 20:12:48 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:12:48 EST
Subject: [DVBC] Ed's bikes
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All my bikes serve different purposes to me. I have my Blue Specialized road
bike which is my workhorse and the one I also have a second wheel to use on my
trainer. Then there is my polished Specialized road bike which is a little
lighter, some carbon components, better shifters and so on which is for my A
rides and centuries. I also have 2 MTB , both Schwinns one of which does not have
a pedal system and computer which is the bike I would ride in on snow days,
the other MTB is my good one equipped with SPD pedals and computer - better
everything. My newest bike is a commuter/touring bike which is in the process of
being built, it's equipped with a rack and bag system SPD pedals and computer.
The last and final bike is a beater bike that I don't ride much but it is the
one that got me back on the bike, so I keep around for sentimental value.
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All my bikes serve different purposes to me. I have my Blue Specialized r=
oad bike which is my workhorse and the one I also have a second wheel t=
o use on my trainer. Then there is my polished Specialized road bike which i=
s a little lighter, some carbon components, better shifters and so on w=
hich is for my A rides and centuries. I also have 2 MTB , both Schwinns=
one of which does not have a pedal system and computer which is the bike I=20=
would ride in on snow days, the other MTB is my good one equipped with SPD p=
edals and computer - better everything. My newest bike is a commuter/to=
uring bike which is in the process of being built, it's equipped with a rack=
and bag system SPD pedals and computer. The last and final bike is a beater=
bike that I don't ride much but it is the one that got me back on the bike,=
so I keep around for sentimental value.
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Fri Jan 9 21:49:10 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Douglas Bower)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:49:10 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Saturday ride
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I know it will be very cold and sunny on Saturday but if you dress well
it is rideable. (new verb "rideable"). Is there any interest among the
DVBC for a ride from Valley Forge Park to the Philadelphia Museum of
Art?
Doug
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Fri Jan 9 22:06:05 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (David)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 17:06:05 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] fixed gear wheels for sale
Message-ID:
Hey everyone,
here's your chance to join the fixed gear cool guys club. i bought new
wheels for my fixed beauty and am selling my old ones. i'm gonna ebay them.
if anybody on this list wants them, let me know. $50 and the world of fixed
gear riding can be opened to you.
david c
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sat Jan 10 01:09:10 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Antonio Rocha)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:09:10 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Ed's bikes
In-Reply-To: <28.425395c9.2d306540@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040109200731.00b1b620@pop3.craftech.com>
WOW... Ed... Slow down man.. this is way too much information.
We don't need to know about all your girlfriends and what you do with them!
Tony
At 03:12 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>All my bikes serve different purposes to me. I have my Blue Specialized
>road bike which is my workhorse and the one I also have a second wheel to
>use on my trainer. Then there is my polished Specialized road bike which
>is a little lighter, some carbon components, better shifters and so on
>which is for my A rides and centuries. I also have 2 MTB , both Schwinns
>one of which does not have a pedal system and computer which is the bike I
>would ride in on snow days, the other MTB is my good one equipped with SPD
>pedals and computer - better everything. My newest bike is a
>commuter/touring bike which is in the process of being built, it's
>equipped with a rack and bag system SPD pedals and computer. The last and
>final bike is a beater bike that I don't ride much but it is the one that
>got me back on the bike, so I keep around for sentimental value.
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Craftech Computer Solutions Fax 610-566-9340
113 Old State Road tony@craftech.com
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sat Jan 10 12:26:21 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:26:21 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] (no subject)
Message-ID: <011020041226.19669.163a@comcast.net>
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sat Jan 10 12:31:25 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (dvbc@list.dvbc.org)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:31:25 +0000
Subject: [DVBC] Going West
Message-ID: <011020041231.6302.31b7@comcast.net>
Anyone up for the Bicycle Tour of Colorado June 26 - July 2? The Virginia Tour sounds good, but too early in the month for us teachers. So I will ride the BTC, which I rode in '01, as well. A great ride!! Have to struggle up a couple of minor hills. Oh, but the other side. Nothing like flying along for 10 or more miles at 35+ mph. And the scenery is spectacular. The price, at $295, is most reasonable. A good 'warm-up' ride for those of us headed to France to ride this summer. Here is the link http://www.bicycletourcolo.com
Glenn
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Fri Jan 9 16:52:23 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (B & J LaDrew)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:52:23 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Cash Prize Offered
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I have it from a reliable source that Steve Trobovic is offering an =
undisclosed cash prize to the DVBC member who rode the most miles today =
(Saturday, January 10) . Sorry, slackers, but indoor miles do not count =
and outdoor miles only count if they were ridden in the frigid air of =
PA, NJ or DE. So step up to the List Serve and tell us how many miles =
you rode today!*
--Bob LaDrew
*The cash award is comprised of the money Steve had intended to award =
the winner of the contest to name the DVBC newsletter before he found =
out the last contest was won by someone who suggested the name "The DVBC =
Newsletter."
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most miles today (Saturday, January 10) . Sorry, slackers, but indoor =
miles do=20
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air of=20
PA, NJ or DE. So step up to the List Serve and tell us how many miles =
you rode=20
today!*
--Bob LaDrew
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of the money=20
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the DVBC=20
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suggested=20
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From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sat Jan 10 17:10:52 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Dave Hartrum)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:10:52 -0500
Subject: [DVBC] Cash Prize Offered
In-Reply-To: <005901c3d6d0$f62a1300$84635cd1@oemcomputer>
References: <005901c3d6d0$f62a1300$84635cd1@oemcomputer>
Message-ID:
I was going to wait and do a night time ride this evening :-)
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Dave Hartrum WA3YDZ
dhartrum@mac.com
dhartrum@comcast.net
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On Jan 9, 2004, at 11:52 AM, B & J LaDrew wrote:
> I have it from a reliable source that Steve Trobovic is offering
> an undisclosed cash prize to the DVBC member who rode the most miles
> today (Saturday, January 10) . Sorry, slackers, but indoor miles do
> not count and outdoor miles only count if they were ridden in the
> frigid air of PA, NJ or DE. So step up to the List Serve and tell us
> how many miles you rode today!*
> --Bob LaDrew
>
>
> *The cash award is comprised of the money Steve had intended to
> award the winner of the contest to name the DVBC newsletter before he
> found out the last contest was won by someone who suggested the name
> "The DVBC Newsletter."
From dvbc@list.dvbc.org Sat Jan 10 20:33:40 2004
From: dvbc@list.dvbc.org (Edward Sobolewski)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:33:40 -0800
Subject: [DVBC] Cash Prize Offered
References: <005901c3d6d0$f62a1300$84635cd1@oemcomputer>
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I just got back from a 25.5 mile ride and without any frostbites. This =
was the coldest day I have ever written, I stated at 10:00 am and the =
outside thermometer was showing 6 deg F; my previous record was 10 deg =
F. I was actually quite comfortable, thanks to all this high-tech =
fabrics. The only problem ware my feet, they started to get cold but =
not terribly bad. The reason was that I forgot to fully charge the =
batteries of my foot warmers, and about 1/3 of the ride they run out of =
juice. I enjoyed the ride and would do it again.
Edward
----- Original Message -----=20
From: B & J LaDrew=20
To: dvbc@list.dvbc.org=20
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: [DVBC] Cash Prize Offered
I have it from a reliable source that Steve Trobovic is offering =
an undisclosed cash prize to the DVBC member who rode the most miles =
today (Saturday, January 10) . Sorry, slackers, but indoor miles do not =
count and outdoor miles only count if they were ridden in the frigid air =
of PA, NJ or DE. So step up to the List Serve and tell us how many miles =
you rode today!*
--Bob LaDrew
*The cash award is comprised of the money Steve had intended to award =
the winner of the contest to name the DVBC newsletter before he found =
out the last contest was won by someone who suggested the name "The DVBC =
Newsletter."
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Edward
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B & J=20
LaDrew